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Dragonite Analysis
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This article gives you ideas of how to use Dragonite in battle in the Pokémon Black, Pokémon White and Pokemon B2W2 Games. It lists popular movesets used by competitive battlers, as well as a description on how to use each set to help you understand why the moves were chosen. These popular sets are usually the best to use in battle and so reading this guide will help you in your team building.

Gen 4: Overview

Most Offensive Teams


2 Sets have Experimental/Statistics Data, which includes detailed information and calculations on countering threats you may encounter!

 
Ability Nature Item HP Atk. Def. SpAtk. SpDef. Speed
Inner Focus Jolly life orb / lum berry / yache berry 56 252 0 0 0 200
- DD Sweeper
Ability: Inner Focus
Item: Life Orb
Moves: Dragon Dance / Roost / Earthquake / Outrage / Dragon Claw / Fire Blast

Experiment #2 (Speed)

Dragonite´s minimum speed is 196 (294 with Dragon Dance). Max Speed w/o Speed nature is 259 (388 with Dragon Dance). Max Speed is 284 (426 with Dragon Dance).

Pokemon that Dragonite can out speed with 426 Speed and NOT 388:
- Scarf Togekiss (Speed Tie)
- Agility Metagross (w/ 419)
- Scarf Heatran (w/ 418)
- Aerodactyl, Jolteon, Crobat (w/ 395)
- Scarf Breloom (w/ 394)
- Jolly DD Gyarados (w/ 392)

Pokemon that Dragonite can out speed with 284 Speed and NOT 259:
- Timid Togekiss (Speed Tie)
- Impish Gliscor (w/ 281)
- Adamant Lucario (w/ 280)
- Timid Heatran (w/ 279)
- Smeargle (w/ 274)
- Adamant Gyarados (w/ 262)

Pokemon that Dragonite can out speed with 259 Speed and NOT 196:
- Modest Heatran (w/ 254)
- Bold Celebi (w/ 246)
- Jolly Tyranitar (w/ 244)
- Adamant Breloom (w/ 240)

From the above statistics we can see that Dragonite would love to be Jolly over Adamant nature in order to out speed many threats like Adamant Lucario, Timid Heatran, Scarf Heatran, Jolteon, and Aerodactyl. While Adamant nature is also viable with with 246 Speed.

Experiment #2 (Attack) + Life Orb

- Needs Max Atk in order to OHKO all bulky Tyranitars with Earthquake + Dragon Dance.
- Needs Max Atk in order to OHKO Bulky Gyarados with Outrage + Dragon Dance after SR damage and Intimidate.
- Needs Max Atk in order to OHKO Metagross´ with Dragon Dance + Earthquake.
- Needs Max Atk in order to maximize OHKO on Swampert with Dragon Dance + Outrage with SR damage.

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From the statistics above we can conclude the following spreads to be ideal for DD Sweeper Dragonite:

#1 Dragonite @ Life Orb + Adamant + 56 HP / 252 Atk / 200 Speed
#2 Dragonite @ Life Orb + Jolly + 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Speed

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This is your standard Dragonite. Unlike its cousins Garchomp and Salamence it can use Dragon Dance AND Outrage, and it will do a lot of damage to anything that doesnt resist Dragon. EQ for Steels that cant levitate, I.e. Magnezone and Heatran, it also offers decent coverage with Outrage. Fire Punch is for the rest. After Life Orb and one Dragon Dance Fire Punch 2hkos Skarm. Fire Blast is really for Skarm, but even then it 2hkos with Life Orb, and Fire Blasts accuracy is meh.

In reality, Salamence is usually superior for Dragon Dancing with Superior speed, but with Outrage puts D-nite in for consideration. AND it learns Fire Punch with 75 BP and 100% Accuracy and that is something neither Garchomp nor Salamence can do.

If you want even more power, Adamant is an option, but only if u dont mind the speed drop. If this is so, put 240 Speed Evs to bring its speed to 256 and outrun Jolly Weavile, but to be honest, if Weavile carries Ice Shard you may not want to stay in anyway, and one DDd outrage will 2hko anything that doesnt resist it anyway, even with Jolly Nature.

Here are some Damage Calculations of an Outrage at 367 Atk With Life Orb+one DD:

Max HP/Def Gliscor: 68.64%-80.66%

Max HP/Def Hippowdon: 60%-70.72%

Max HP/Def Cresselia: 56.31%-66.19%

The EVs are designed to be able to outrun Scarf Heracross after one DD, and Banded one without. Maximising attack will give it a bit of a kick.

 
Ability Nature Item HP Atk. Def. SpAtk. SpDef. Speed
Inner Focus Mild / Rash life orb 0 64 0 252 0 192
There are no current set statistics analysed






Ok wall breaker D-Nite, does what it says on the tin: it BREAKS WALLS. Mild or Rash to get that rather average special attack up, although at the cost of bulkiness in either Defense or Special Defense. The Evs maximize Sp Atk so it can hit hard, although this is in reality an inferior Mixmence, but doesnt mean it can be used effectively. The speed is enough to outrun Tyranitar, although u may wanna give it more to outrun the other threats also trying to outrun Tyranitar. Draco Meteor is an obvious choice, especially at 150 BP + STAB + Life Orb, its going to hurt. Focus punch for blissey on the switch, and it will OHKO Bliss thanks to Life Orb. Fire Blast says bye bye to Skarmory, Forretress and Bronzong.

As for the last move, it really depend on what you fear. Thunderbolt for Gyarados and other waters (just be careful of ice fang). EQ for the ever troublesome Heatran (Waterfall/Aqua Tail is also ok for consideration). Ice beam or Dragon Pulse is for back up, especially if you dont want to use Draco Meteor right away, also using Ice beam on a Gliscor would save the need to use Draco Meteor.

Roost is also another decent option for this set, and suddenly its like an inferior ToyMence, but it can keep Dragonite alive longer.

 
Ability Nature Item HP Atk. Def. SpAtk. SpDef. Speed
Inner Focus Mild / Rash choice specs 0 64 0 252 0 192
There are no current set statistics analysed






At first sight this is an inferior specsmence. In reality this is an inferior specs mence, with less special attack and speed. The thing that makes this so different is really Focus Punch. The one thing Salamence cant do, is use focus punch. Draco Meteor is an obvious choice, being the most powerful Dragon move there is and with choice specs = total carnage. Dragon Pulse is a more reliable dragon move, at the cost of power and can be reused at a decent rate without the sp atk drop. If u prefer coverage, go for t bolt, especially for bulky Gyara and other waters. Flamethrower takes out steels like Scizor and bronzong, although you can use Fire Blast if you dont mind having less accuracy. The last move is something of the choosers choice. Focus Punch will hurt Blissey a lot, and will 2hko at least. If you doubt the reliability of Focus Punch go for surf to hurt Heatan, and u can put the Atk Evs into HP instead. Heck, you can even use Earthquake and will OHKO Heatran and Magnezone, although, Flamethrower can deal with Magnezone.

 
Ability Nature Item HP Atk. Def. SpAtk. SpDef. Speed
Inner Focus Adamant choice band 64 252 0 0 0 192
There are no current set statistics analysed






Practically nothing can safely switch into this set without being 2hkoed at least. Dragon and Fighting together have no resists, the last two moves just help with super effective coverage. Outrage is an obvious choice, as Dragonites most powerful Physical attack and will hurt a lotta pokes that arent steel. Focus punch is best used for predicting switches, Heatran, Magnezone and other steels will not like D-Nite at all. Fire punch for consistant damage against steels that arent Heatran. Thunder punch to put a dent in Suicune and an even bigger dent in Gyarados. Dragon Claw is so Dragonite can switch, whereas Outrage will stay stuck for 2-3 turns and enable something to come in and easily revenge kill Dragonite. EQ is for extra coverage and easy damage against Heatran.

 
Ability Nature Item HP Atk. Def. SpAtk. SpDef. Speed
Inner Focus Impish leftovers 252 0 96 0 32 128
There are no current set statistics analysed






The one set that sets D-Nite apart from the other Dragons. This is a team playa, and is designed to keep your other pokes out of danger. As seen by the EV spread its built for bulkiness and will be able to take a hit or two. Dragon Claw for STAB, outrage isnt recommended because you dont want something to coming in to Revenge kill it, or if its a Steel type, take the hit and finish off your supporting poke. Roost is to keep it alive as long as possible, also makes that 4x ice weakness only 2x weak, and can make that bit of difference. Move 3 is to protect your team from harm, Heal Bell will heal status and can turn a dangerous situation around, suddenly a paralyzed Scarfer can do damage again. Light Screen will shield the team from special attacks better. Move number 4 is to disable the opposing team and really cripple. Toxic for those who like stall out your opponent. T-wave for some nice parahax.

Overall a nice set, and can do what the other dragons can not do. The only problem is its weaknesses: Rock, Ice and Dragon, ice being the more dangerous out of the three. Keep your wits about you when using this set.

 
Ability Nature Item HP Atk. Def. SpAtk. SpDef. Speed
Inner Focus Adamant leftovers 244 252 0 0 0 12
There are no current set statistics analysed






Yet another set another dragon cannot pull off. Mainly because the other dragons cannot learn Focus Punch. And this set packs a punch (no pun intended lol). Substitute on the switch or if you are predicting a status move/ scouting moves.pokes. Focus Punch says hi to Blissey, and Blissey says bye to its team very quickly. Focus Punch on the switch and it will most likely OHKO the vast majority of Blisseys that dont have 714 HP. Dragon Claw is for STAB and will hit most for neutral damage. Draco Meteor, if u put some Evs into special attack as well, but thats purely for choice of the user. Same thing with Fire Blast and Fire Punch, depends on the users preferences. Fire Blast will hurt Skarmory for the 2HKO. Fire Punch will hurt Bronzong more.

 
Ability Nature Item HP Atk. Def. SpAtk. SpDef. Speed
Inner Focus Adamant yache berry 252 0 16 0 0 240
There are no current set statistics analysed






This is the definition of BulkyNIte.

Ordinarilly, Speed EVs on a wallish PKMN that even has Dragon Dance would be nuts.

However, with those 240 Speed EVs, it can outspeed Weavile after a single DD....yeah.

The rest is pretty self-explanatory.

 
Ability Nature Item HP Atk. Def. SpAtk. SpDef. Speed
Inner Focus Quiet life orb 0 232 0 252 0 24
Anti-Lead
Ability: Inner Focus
Item: Life Orb
Moves: Draco Meteor / Fire Blast / Extremespeed / Earthquake / Superpower

Experiment #1 (Atk + SpAtk) + Life Orb

- Needs 316 SpAtk stat to 2HKO Lead Swampert with Draco Meteor.
- Needs Max SpAtk in order to maximize OHKO on Jirachi lead with Fire Blast.
- Needs Max SpAtk in order to maxmize OHKO on Bulky Gyaradow with Draco Meteor and SR damage.
- Needs Max SpAtk in order to maximize OHKO on Rotom-A with Draco Meteor and SR damage.
- Needs Max Atk in order to always OHKO Bold Blissey with Superpower and SR damage.

From the above statistics we can see that this Anti-Lead Dragonite needs max EVs in Atk and SpAtk.

Experiment #2 (Speed)

Dragonite´s minimum (-)Speed nature is 176. Minimum speed is 196. Max Speed w/o Speed nature is 259. Max Speed is 284.

Pokemon that Dragonite out speeds with 196 and NOT 176:
- Skarmory, Metagross, Magnezone, Rhyperior (w/ 181)

From the above stats, we can see that Dragonite will only need 24 Speed in order to out speed its threats. We will remove 20 EVs from Atk (less significant) in order to meet this requirement.

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From the statistics above we can conclude the following spreads to be ideal for Anti-Lead Dragonite:

#1 Dragonite @ Life Orbs + Quiet + 232 Atk / 252 SpAtk / 24 Speed

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This set is perfect for countering many of Dragonite's counters. It can 2 hit knock out a Lead Swampert, and can destroy a Jirachi lead with FireBlast.

The reason for the name: Anti lead, is to describe the function of this set. This set is perfect for destroying common OU Leads.

Most Used Set

DD Nite set

Other Options

I believe I have covered the majority of D-nite sets, but there are a couple I can think of from the top of my head: Choice Scarf and Agility. These are more novel options and would cause some surprise and could be enough to win you the battle.

Usual Counters

You need good prediction to switch to something that could hurt it, such as steel types that can take the hit, just be careful of a Fire move on the switch. Swampert and Suicune can switch in on Dragonite and Ice Beam and make waste of the gentle dragon. Also, if it has gained a dragon dance, then you might have to sacrifice a Pokemon just to get something like weavile out and revenge kill it with ice punch (if sashed) or Ice Shard which will attack first. There isnt much that can counter Dragonite safely.

Opinion

This is a great pokemon, however others like salamence and Tyranitar have deeply discouraged its use.











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