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Sheep
09-23-2009, 11:54 PM
Post your opinion about who the next suspect should be!

cat
09-23-2009, 11:55 PM
manaphy

latios

Albatross
09-23-2009, 11:56 PM
lugia or deoxys-a

Souza230
09-23-2009, 11:56 PM
manaphy

supertrunks8
09-23-2009, 11:57 PM
manaphy
latios (w/osouldewobviously)
Deoxys

Tony32
09-23-2009, 11:58 PM
Latios/manaphy/Deo-A

Milos
09-23-2009, 11:58 PM
latios or manaphy but not both

Tastelesshat
09-24-2009, 12:00 AM
Deoxys Defence

DKG
09-24-2009, 12:02 AM
Latios, Manaphy, Chomp, Mew, Jirachi?

Milos
09-24-2009, 12:03 AM
umm sheep aren't we going to have a vote for whether ho-oh is uber or not?

Latiosmaster
09-24-2009, 12:56 AM
Latios? It's never gonna make Ou, why try? .-.
My vote is manaphy

Sheep
09-24-2009, 01:17 AM
Hooh is uber with Brave Bird under its belt.

Tony32
09-24-2009, 01:38 AM
rofl that's not a very good reason

Milos
09-24-2009, 01:50 AM
Hooh is uber with Brave Bird under its belt.

wtf? people didnt spend weeks laddering and waiting to vote for you to decide if its uber or not..put up a ******* poll

Dark Abyss
09-24-2009, 02:21 AM
My vote is probably Manaphy or Deoxys regular forme. Why not Wynaut? lol jk

Tony32
09-24-2009, 04:18 AM
Put up a ******* poll like milos said negus.

alpha nerd
09-24-2009, 02:23 PM
forget the poll. i vote lugia

Dimes
09-24-2009, 08:33 PM
forget the poll. i vote lugia


Give me one reason why Lugia should be OU.


And although with BB, Ho-oh has no counters, it will die easily with Stealth Rock. I'd want to see a retest of Ho-oh, maybe not now, but in the near future. And btw sheep, you are NOT going to decide the metagame. I am going to open a Ho-oh Poll.


Am I the only one who saw this and lol'd?

Milos
09-24-2009, 11:18 PM
Give me one reason why Lugia should be OU.


And although with BB, Ho-oh has no counters, it will die easily with Stealth Rock. I'd want to see a retest of Ho-oh, maybe not now, but in the near future. And btw sheep, you are NOT going to decide the metagame. I am going to open a Ho-oh Poll.


Am I the only one who saw this and lol'd?

for once in my life i agree with you

Dimes
09-27-2009, 09:14 PM
This is hypocrisy.


Who gave you the right to say that Ho-oh is uber? Your logic sucks. Don't speak. AT ALL.

Tastelesshat
09-27-2009, 09:25 PM
This is hypocrisy.


Who gave you the right to say that Ho-oh is uber? Your logic sucks. Don't speak. AT ALL.
Who gave you the right to make the Ho-Oh vote thread lawl? Hypocrite.

Def Jam
09-27-2009, 09:36 PM
manaphy

latios

agreed

Sheep
09-27-2009, 09:43 PM
Who gave fatman the right to choose the suspect voters?

over 1000 rating my ***

Galileo
09-29-2009, 10:01 AM
Salamence

MixMence always works. This menace 2HKOs EVERY Pokemon in OU. For instance, Salamence 2HKOs Cresselia with Draco Meteor followed by Outrage, assuming Stealth Rock. Bronzong can not switch in safely, and takes huge amounts of damage from Draco Meteor and Fire Blast. The only "counters" to MixMence are Occa Berry Bronzong with epic amounts of SAtk investment and Hidden Power (Ice), and Lugia. Wait, Lugia is Uber, nevermind.

MixMence can only be revenge killed by Weavile and Mamoswine, and on some occasions, by CB Scizor. The fact that Salamence is almost always paired up with Scizor makes it quite hard for Weavile and Mamoswine to revenge kill Mence. Another Pokemon which is commonly used with Salamence is Heatran. Tran counters both Weavile and Scizor, and can destroy CB Mamoswine locked on Ice Shard (it will be when it tries to revenge kill Mence).

Salamence also has a way more diverse movepool than everything in OU. Salamence can be a Mixed attacker, it can have Specs, Band and even a Scarf, it can use Dragon Dance to enormous success, and it can also be a great tank, wall, or even staller.

Make it a Suspect at least.



And lol, if you guys are really going to make Ho-oh OU, then make Rayquaza and Lugia OU, too. They are also Stealth Rock weak, so why not, right?

Dimes
09-29-2009, 03:01 PM
Who gave you the right to make the Ho-Oh vote thread lawl? Hypocrite.


I'm talking about how sheep asks how I get the right to post the voting thread. That's hypocrisy when he does it and tells me off for doing it.

LERN 2 DICKSHUNAREE

Iris
09-30-2009, 12:38 AM
i want manaphy, though i really want latias gone.

Vertigo
09-30-2009, 05:33 AM
Latias is good though ;_; And killed by Scizor. Anything killed by scizor is usually UU so Latias is considered lucky you know. lol

Ehh, I think it'd be cool if we did a suspect for Mewtwo.

Iris
09-30-2009, 05:04 PM
No doubt Latias is killed by scizor. im not saying its broken, i just want it gone

GarcianSmith
09-30-2009, 05:16 PM
Ehh, I think it'd be cool if we did a suspect for Mewtwo.

whosajiggawha?

Vertigo
09-30-2009, 06:00 PM
xD
On a more serious note, I think Deoxys (normal forme) could be an interesting suspect test vote.
@Iris: Yeah, maybe. But..this metagame is just steel + dragon. ~_~

PLDH-MajeSan
09-30-2009, 08:43 PM
xD
On a more serious note, I think Deoxys (normal forme) could be an interesting suspect test vote.
@Iris: Yeah, maybe. But..this metagame is just steel + dragon. ~_~

That does make a fairly good point. Deoxys is ridiculously fragile, and it doesn't have the power to OHKO absolutely everything like Deoxys-A does. I would be interested in seeing it perform.

Dimes
10-01-2009, 08:44 PM
But it boasts Extremespeed to kill any sweepers, it kills any other walls and it is very fast. Tell me, what will the metagame be like with DEOXYS.

Tastelesshat
10-01-2009, 10:23 PM
Your mom

Personally I think that Deoxys Defense is worth testing in OU since it's basically Cress with recover, lower HP and spikes.

Dimes
10-02-2009, 07:11 PM
And bad Hp.

But, it has a faster Torment, Taunt, access to entry hazards and it boasts Kock Off, Seismic Toss and Night Shade. Stall? Lolwut.

Thankfully it doesn't have Screech.

Torment, Taunt, Protect/Substitute, Night Shade + Dugtrio means that many teams lose.

Tastelesshat
10-02-2009, 09:10 PM
And bad Hp.

But, it has a faster Torment, Taunt, access to entry hazards and it boasts Kock Off, Seismic Toss and Night Shade. Stall? Lolwut.

Thankfully it doesn't have Screech.

Torment, Taunt, Protect/Substitute, Night Shade + Dugtrio means that many teams lose.

That is REALLY Blissey weak IMO. Plus it lacks recovery outside leftovers

Carlo1003
10-02-2009, 10:50 PM
Dude, please don't suggest a Pokemon without even knowing everything about it. :/

How is it weak to Blissey when any attack thrown by Blissey is completely useless with Recover? lol Blissey has Toxic. Well Deoxys-D has Taunt. :/ Dexoys can easily set-up on Blissey; may it be by Calm Minding or entry hazards. <_<

EDIT: How is it like Cress when that "little/bad HP" you speak of is backed up with a massive 160 base Def and SDef?

Tastelesshat
10-03-2009, 12:22 AM
Dude, please don't suggest a Pokemon without even knowing everything about it. :/

How is it weak to Blissey when any attack thrown by Blissey is completely useless with Recover? lol Blissey has Toxic. Well Deoxys-D has Taunt. :/ Dexoys can easily set-up on Blissey; may it be by Calm Minding or entry hazards. <_<

EDIT: How is it like Cress when that "little/bad HP" you speak of is backed up with a massive 160 base Def and SDef?

I was referring to the set Fatman mentioned. 50/160/160 is similar to 120/120/130 isn't it? :/

Dimes
10-03-2009, 12:27 AM
I was referring to the set Fatman mentioned. 50/160/160 is similar to 120/120/130 isn't it? :/


120 Hp makes all of the diference here. Compare 50 HP to 120. That's more bulky than Deoxys-D.

Oh and that set isn't Blissey weak. I can Torment it, Taunt it and what ever. Bliss can't do a thing.

Iris
10-03-2009, 02:28 PM
why are we comparing it to cress when it is used in a completely different way? Plus, Carlo is right, it isn't bliss weak with taunt, which most should have

Sheep
10-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Torment, Taunt, Protect/Substitute, Night Shade + Dugtrio means that many teams lose.

Quoting this for fail.

Dimes
10-03-2009, 10:14 PM
Quoting this for fail.


Quoting this for more fail.

Seth Vilo
10-11-2009, 09:52 PM
I'm game for the following, in this order of preference:

-Deoxys-D
-Latios
-Manaphy

If I have to choose between the three, I'll be horribly torn between the top 2, but I'd go for Deoxys-D.

Michael Jackson
10-12-2009, 12:52 AM
mewtwo

Goldgross
10-12-2009, 03:27 PM
Manaphy, Latios or Garchomp.

Vertigo
10-27-2009, 06:39 AM
Deoxys. (normal forme)
It needs a suspect imo.

GarcianSmith
10-27-2009, 04:53 PM
care to elaborate on your reasoning vert?

Vertigo
10-27-2009, 05:52 PM
Lots of common sense reasons. Okay.

1. We can always do with do extra people coming to try Deoxys out. Smogon is so big chances are they are going to want to try out Deoxys in normal forme.
2. We need to beat Smogon before they do this and we can do an original suspect for once.
3. Now for battling reasons, it would be one of the most interesting suspects in awhile.
4. Can you really think of anything better or more realistic to have a Suspect about at this current time?.
5. It has never had a suspect

GarcianSmith
10-27-2009, 06:17 PM
yeah, but why do you think it might not actually be too broken for OU?

Dimes
10-27-2009, 07:54 PM
"Because smogon hasn't done it." is NOT a good reason. We've done Ho-oh before smogon. Deoxys Normal beats practicly everything in OU and UU, and beats priority with Extreme Speed. Blissey and Tyranitar are screwed over by Super Power, Gyara by Thunder Punch, Fire Punch for Steels, ect. Nothing can switch in, barely anything can revenge. Salamence can come in, but it has to pray to god that Deoxys is not running Ice Punch. Of course, you can play around with prediction, but if you can, then so can your opponent. I won't be suprised to even see a few Sub sets out there too, just for beating CB Tar's Pursuit when switching out.


Deoxys Defense is nuts. Torment+ Protect+Sub+ Recover= GG metagame. It's main problem is that it's Taunt weak, so now we're going to have to use U-Turn Gliscor on every team.

Vertigo
10-28-2009, 06:56 PM
Extremespeed is a good point to be honest.
Then the Suspect list looks just about Null and Void.

bobphillip
01-15-2010, 12:51 AM
I say Manaphy and Latios

Coldcut
03-03-2010, 03:28 AM
Jirachi for at least suspect. It can do just about everything, including special sweeper, physical sweeper, tank, wish support, revenge killer, etc, all without taking into account its ability, which makes it nearly un-counterable. We have all seen Iron Head flinch a Heatran or Rotom forme, normally good switch ins, into submission.

Dragonknight
03-03-2010, 04:09 AM
Coldcut, please don't revive ancient topics. also, there are so many jirachi counters out there, that it's not really that big of a problem.

Dimes
03-03-2010, 02:15 PM
Agreed.

Iggylow
03-04-2010, 12:05 AM
i say Pidgeot