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sonriopoby123
09-04-2012, 12:43 AM
So, I've decided to try Competitive Play again, even though I failed last time. So, rate them please!

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/472_gliscor_front_norm.png
Gliscor @ Lum Berry Ability: Sand Veil
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 4 Def, 252 Spe
Moves:
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Roost
Toxic

A standard Gliscor set. Very good lead. It can outspeed almost every other lead and plant Stealth Rock everytime. Roost for healing purposes, as it may not counter Grass types. Toxic is only for those bulky Water types, like Samurott.

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/286_breloom_front_norm.png
Breloom @ Toxic Orb Ability: Poison Heal
Adamant Nature
EVs: 244 Atk, 252 Spe
Moves:
Spore
Substitute
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb

Ah, SubPunch Breloom. How I missed you. Breloom has always been a favorite of mine. Spore will INSTANTLY put the opponent to sleep, for then I can use Focus Punch. Substitute, I use most of the time, since I have Poison Heal and Toxic Orb. Seed Bomb can knock out any Pokes that survive SubPunch.

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/477_dusknoir_front_norm.png
Dusknoir @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP, 152 Atk, 104 Def
Impish Nature
Moves:
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
Shadow Punch
Seismic Toss

Dusknoir is bawss. It's a tank. Burn them, PS if needed, and them demolish them with Shadow Punch. Seismic Toss are for those pesky Normal Types.

http://wiki.pokemonpl.net/images/d/d9/Lilligant_Ruch.gif
Lilligant @ Life Orb Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 4 HP, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
Modest Nature
Moves:
Quiver Dance
Petal Dance
Sleep Powder
Hidden Power(Fire)

Why use 2 Grass types? Because Lilligant is something I REALLY wanted to try out. And it's a sweeper all right. QD and PD are essentials if you have Own Tempo, and Sleep Powder makes everything better. HP Fire is for the Pokemon who resist, like Ferrothorn.

http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/b2w2/134.png
Vaporeon @ Choice Specs Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP, 4 Def
Modest Nature
Moves:
Surf
Ice Beam
Hidden Power(Fire)
Shadow Ball

Specsporeon. We meet again. I messed up with the EVs. I needed SpA as well. But I'm okay. I made it my wall. Surf and Ice Beam are what I usually use. HP Fire is for people who try to resist. Shadow Ball is to lower the opponents SpD, and for Pokemon like *shivers* Jellicent.

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/596_galvantula_front_norm.png
Galvantula @ Choice Scarf Ability: Compoundeyes
EVs: 252 SpA, 4 SpD, 252 Spe
Timid Nature
Moves:
Thunder
Bug Buzz
Volt Switch
Energy Ball

Galvantula. One of the Pokemon I chose for my ingame team. I had the unfortunate Galvantula with Unnerve. But this one I got from my friend. The Lilligant as well. It is really useful! Thunder and Bug Buzz are my main moves, while Volt Switch and Energy Ball are what I use with Pokes I'm weak to.


So, there you have it. Hope it's good. I completely failed on my last time(don't ask), so I thought I'd give it a try again. Please and thank you.

lolLilligantmoveslol

HoennTrainerRuby
09-04-2012, 12:54 AM
Great team :D but your missing hudge EV points like on Vaporeon, JOlteon can take it out VERY fast. I don't have time to make a full list now though, I'll edit this!

Dragonite
09-04-2012, 01:26 AM
Gotta love that Dusknoir. The rest of the team looks pretty good too, although I've never been impressed with Lilligant's abilities for dishing out damage or the moves it carries besides Quiver Dance. That's just me, though.

Weavile
09-04-2012, 01:46 AM
So, I've decided to try Competitive Play again, even though I failed last time. So, rate them please!

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/472_gliscor_front_norm.png
Gliscor @ Lum Berry Ability: Sand Veil
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 40 Def, 252 Spe
Moves:
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Roost
Toxic

A standard Gliscor set. Very good lead. It can outspeed almost every other lead and plant Stealth Rock everytime. Roost for healing purposes, as it may not counter Grass types. Toxic is only for those bulky Water types, like Samurott.

I'm assuming you just made a typo, but in case you didn't: That EV spread is illegal seeing as you have 544 EVs. Anyways, this set is very interesting. I don't see many lead Gliscors, or many Lum Berry Gliscors. Either way, I'd go either all bulky or all offensive on this set. Gliscor's not gonna be outspeeding much without a Scarf, and Scarf Gliscor is a joke. I'd suggest you get a Poison Healing variant and throw a Toxic Orb on him. Otherwise your moveset is perfectly fine.

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/286_breloom_front_norm.png
Breloom @ Toxic Orb Ability: Poison Heal
Adamant Nature
EVs: 244 Atk, 252 Spe
Moves:
Spore
Substitute
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb

Ah, SubPunch Breloom. How I missed you. Breloom has always been a favorite of mine. Spore will INSTANTLY put the opponent to sleep, for then I can use Focus Punch. Substitute, I use most of the time, since I have Poison Heal and Toxic Orb. Seed Bomb can knock out any Pokes that survive SubPunch.

Great Breloom, no complaints here. I use almost the same set myself.

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/477_dusknoir_front_norm.png
Dusknoir @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP, 152 Atk, 104 Def
Impish Nature
Moves:
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
Shadow Punch
Seismic Toss

Dusknoir is bawss. It's a tank. Burn them, PS if needed, and them demolish them with Shadow Punch. Seismic Toss are for thos pesky Normal Types.

I'd definitely suggest Dusclops with Eviolite over Dusknoir whenever possible. Dusknoir only has 10 more base attack than Dusclops, and his defenses are actually worse than Eviolite Clops. With Eviolite, Dusclops gets base 205 defenses, which are only bested by the legendary Shuckle. You're going to be doing the majority of your attacking with Seismic Toss which does fixed damage, so I'd suggest getting rid of your attack investment entirely. Shadow Punch kinda sucks coming off of 65 base power, even though it is STAB'd. I'd go with Shadow Sneak instead to at least get some revenge killing possibilities. If you really want the extra attack you could do Adamant nature and then fully invest in defense.

http://wiki.pokemonpl.net/images/d/d9/Lilligant_Ruch.gif
Lilligant @ Life Orb Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 4 HP, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
Modest Nature
Moves:
Quiver Dance
Petal Dance
Sleep Powder
Hidden Power(Fire)

Why use 2 Grass types? Because Lilligant is something I REALLY wanted to try out. And it's a sweeper all right. QD and PD are essentials if you have Own Tempo, and Sleep Powder makes everything better. HP Fire is for the Pokemon who resist, like Ferrothorn.

Good quiver dance set, I like it. Life Orb is a little bit iffy though, because you'll be boosting your attack's damage with Quiver Dance with no HP penalty. I'd recommend a Focus Sash or Leftovers. If you want to keep the Life Orb, use Giga Drain over Petal Dance.

http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/b2w2/134.png
Vaporeon @ Choice Specs Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP, 4 Def
Modest Nature
Moves:
Surf
Ice Beam
Hidden Power(Fire)
Shadow Ball

Specsporeon. We meet again. I messed up with the EVs. I needed SpA as well. But I'm okay. I made it my wall. Surf and Ice Beam are what I usually use. HP Fire is for people who try to resist. Shadow Ball is to lower the opponents SpD, and for Pokemon like *shivers* Jellicent.

If you're using Choice Specs with Vaporeon and 0 Special Attack investment in combination with Max HP, then you're doing something wrong with your life. When using Choice Pokemon, you have about 1 option when making EV Spreads: Max Attack/Sp. Attack and Max Speed. On top of that, Vaporeon is much better suited to a defensive role. You'd be better off using a Wish passing set or a Tanky attacker. Specs will definitely catch people off guard, but you won't be killing much with no Sp. Attack investment.

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/596_galvantula_front_norm.png
Galvantula @ Choice Scarf Ability: Compoundeyes
EVs: 252 SpA, 4 SpD, 252 Spe
Timid Nature
Moves:
Thunder
Bug Buzz
Volt Switch
Energy Ball

Galvantula. One of the Pokemon I chose for my ingame team. I had the unfortunate Galvantula with Unnerve. But this one I got from my friend. The Lilligant as well. It is really useful! Thunder and Bug Buzz are my main moves, while Volt Switch and Energy Ball are what I use with Pokes I'm weak to.

Smogon tested, Smogon approved.

So, there you have it. Hope it's good. I completely failed on my last time(don't ask), so I thought I'd give it a try again. Please and thank you.

lolLilligantmoveslol

Really good for a first team! My comments are in bold underneath your descriptions. You have a little bit of work to do, but it's a great start.

sonriopoby123
09-04-2012, 01:53 AM
-_-"
I meant to type 4 Def.
*facepalm*

Anyways, thank you! I was worried I did something wrong, but it seems everyone likes it.

Also, I'm just gonna use a website to switch in Pokemon. It took along time to get these guys trained.

Ice
09-04-2012, 02:26 AM
@Weave
>I'd suggest you get a Poison Healing variant and throw a Toxic Orb on him. Otherwise your moveset is perfectly fine.

Fairly sure SR/Toxic Heal isn't compatible but I could be wrong. Might be with B/W2 and tutors but idk anything about that game.

Weavile
09-04-2012, 03:26 AM
Yeah Gliscor can get Stealth Rock via tutoring in BW2. So it's all good in the hood.

CriticalCalla
09-04-2012, 03:49 AM
Alrighty, let's get this over with.

Gliscor: You say that this is a standard Gliscor. *sighs*. First, standard Gliscors carry two attacking moves, EQ and usually Ice Fang, Protect, and either Taunt, Toxic, or Swords Dane. Second, Sand Veil. Nobody runs Sand Veil Gliscor anymore, not even on Sandstorm teams. I suggest finding a Gligar on Dream World or do the normal and more logical idea of downloading Pokegen. Toxic Heal > Sand Veil. Third, EVs are all wrong. Keep Max HP. Put like 72 into speed and the rest into defense. I don't even want to get into the Lum Berry.

Breloom: SubPunch Breloom is pretty nice. Hopefully the rest of your EVs are going into Speed. I prefer to use Facade instead of Seed Bomb for damage reasons, but Seed Bomb works just as well.

Dusknoir: Don't use it that much. Okay set I guess. Honestly, I'm too lazy to research what is good for it.

Lilligant: Obvious Quiver Dancers are obvious. Just remember that. I recommend Giga Drain over Petal Dance, you'll live longer.

Vaporeon: Assuming that the rest of your EVs are in Special attack, this is good except I feel that this shouldn't be you specs poke. I prefer defensive Vaporeons, but it's still a very good set.

Galvantula: Take off the choice scarf. This should be your specs Poke. He can outspeed without the scarf. The boost in power will help him more than the boost in speed..

Overall: You have a quite offensive team. Be prepared to lose a lot since you won't live many attacks. You moves sets, for the most part are good, as well as EVs. Just the Gliscor. Get rid of it and get one with Toxic Heal. As for how it would do online, it will win but it will lose more. I'm not sure if you have the knowledge of tiers, but you have put yourself in OU with Breloom and Vaporeon. Though most OU teams are similar, they are all quite dangerous against this team. Just be careful with your prediction and you should be fine.

Rating: 8.5/10

UbersSuck20
09-04-2012, 06:19 AM
So, I've decided to try Competitive Play again, even though I failed last time. So, rate them please!

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/472_gliscor_front_norm.png
Gliscor @ Toxic Orb Ability: Poison Heal
Jolly Nature
EVs: 252 HP, 4 Def, 252 Spe
Moves:
Earthquake
Stealth Rock
Roost
Substitute/Toxic

A standard Gliscor set. Very good lead. It can outspeed almost every other lead and plant Stealth Rock everytime. Roost for healing purposes, as it may not counter Grass types. Toxic is only for those bulky Water types, like Samurott.

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/286_breloom_front_norm.png
Breloom @ Toxic Orb Ability: Poison Heal
Adamant Nature
EVs: 244 Atk, 252 Spe
Moves:
Spore
Substitute
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb

Ah, SubPunch Breloom. How I missed you. Breloom has always been a favorite of mine. Spore will INSTANTLY put the opponent to sleep, for then I can use Focus Punch. Substitute, I use most of the time, since I have Poison Heal and Toxic Orb. Seed Bomb can knock out any Pokes that survive SubPunch.

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/477_dusknoir_front_norm.png
Dusknoir @ Leftovers Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP, 152 Atk, 104 Def
Impish Nature
Moves:
Will-O-Wisp
Pain Split
Shadow Punch
Earthquake

Dusknoir is bawss. It's a tank. Burn them, PS if needed, and them demolish them with Shadow Punch. Seismic Toss are for those pesky Normal Types.

http://wiki.pokemonpl.net/images/d/d9/Lilligant_Ruch.gif
Lilligant @ Life Orb Ability: Own Tempo
EVs: 4 HP, 252 SpA, 252 Spe
Modest Nature
Moves:
Quiver Dance
Petal Dance
Sleep Powder
Hidden Power(Ice)

Why use 2 Grass types? Because Lilligant is something I REALLY wanted to try out. And it's a sweeper all right. QD and PD are essentials if you have Own Tempo, and Sleep Powder makes everything better. HP Fire is for the Pokemon who resist, like Ferrothorn.

http://www.greenchu.de/sprites/b2w2/134.png
Vaporeon @ Choice Specs Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP, 4 Def
Modest Nature
Moves:
Scald
Ice Beam
Hidden Power(Electric)
Shadow Ball
Choice Specs Vaporeon sucks because you put it's awesome defending capabilities to waste.
Specsporeon. We meet again. I messed up with the EVs. I needed SpA as well. But I'm okay. I made it my wall. Surf and Ice Beam are what I usually use. HP Fire is for people who try to resist. Shadow Ball is to lower the opponents SpD, and for Pokemon like *shivers* Jellicent.

http://pokemon.marriland.com/images/bw/sprites/front/norm/596_galvantula_front_norm.png
Galvantula @ Life Orb Ability: Compoundeyes
EVs: 252 SpA, 4 SpD, 252 Spe
Timid Nature
Moves:
Thunder
Bug Buzz
Volt Switch
Nasty Plot
If you want an all-attacking electric-type, then do yourself a favor and replace it with Eelektross or Rotom-W.
Galvantula. One of the Pokemon I chose for my ingame team. I had the unfortunate Galvantula with Unnerve. But this one I got from my friend. The Lilligant as well. It is really useful! Thunder and Bug Buzz are my main moves, while Volt Switch and Energy Ball are what I use with Pokes I'm weak to.


So, there you have it. Hope it's good. I completely failed on my last time(don't ask), so I thought I'd give it a try again. Please and thank you.

lolLilligantmoveslol

Suggestions in bold. Good team but not perfect.

Umbrony
09-04-2012, 07:59 PM
Just made a team, already an expert team builder. All of my teams personally suck. I just battle with any Pokemon, as long as I have my trusty Mienshao with me.

CriticalCalla
09-04-2012, 10:50 PM
Just made a team, already an expert team builder. All of my teams personally suck. I just battle with any Pokemon, as long as I have my trusty Mienshao with me.

Keep telling yourself that "expert team builder." Let the 6-0 I got remind you who the best team builder on the site is. For the record though, the team didn't suck, it was mostly you.