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UbersSuck20
10-12-2013, 10:00 AM
The general idea of the topic is to rank each OU pokemon under "rankings" that go in descending order by type. There will be a thread for each type (one for normal, one for dragon, one for ice etc)

S rank - the best of the best. These Pokemon can sweep or wall significant portions of the metagame with little support. They can also perform multiple roles sucessfully, increasing their versatility.

A rank - very good. Unlike S-ranked Pokemon, however, they do require a little bit of support in order to do their job effectively.

B rank - good. They cannot really sweep through the metagame but they do have a given offensive or defensive niche (such as Dusknoir's SubPunch set). Also, Pokemon who are partially outclassed by other Pokemon in S or A rank may fall in this category.

C rank - average. They can be effective with the right support, but they have crippling flaws that might prevent them from doing their job or are almost completely outclassed by Pokemon in the above ranks.

D rank - bad. They do have a small niche, but don't expect them to do much. They should almost never be considered for a serious team.


So this is the list:

S rank

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/646-black.gif Kyurem-Black

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/473.gif Mamoswine

A rank


http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/461.gif Weavile

B rank

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/460.gif Abomasnow

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/646.gif Kyurem

C rank

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/091.gif Cloyster

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/478.gif Froslass

D rank

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/615.gif Cryogonal

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/124.gif Jynx

http://media.pldh.net/pokemon/gen5/blackwhite_animated_front/365.gif Walrein

Don't be afraid to nominate other Normal-types or say that a Pokemon should be moved in X tier! You must, however, provide reasons.

Zachgoose
10-12-2013, 03:17 PM
Weavile, Abomasnow, and Kyurem are kind of just average, and are not as useful as Cloyster. Honestly, I'm not sure if any of these (besides Cloyster) are even deserving of A tier. Walrein should be a bit higher up; it's the best "hail team staple" other than Abomasnow

Ice sucks.
And so do his videos. ;)

UbersSuck20
10-12-2013, 03:38 PM
Good luck sweeping with Cloyster when your rating is above 1850. It has absolutely pathetic special defense and after Stealth Rock it can't set up at all. If you give it a Focus Sash, at +2 it won't hit hard enough. It needs too much support in order to be A rank.

Weavile is A+ because Abomasnow brings the least useful weather (hail) and Kyurem is generally outclassed; it only shines in hail and maybe rain. But even in rain offense Kyurem faces competition from Latios and Dragonite. Weavile however doesn't need hail to function, it can work on rain offense, offense, hyperoffense, sand offense and even rain balance teams. It's also the best partner to Keldeo in the game.

Luna
10-12-2013, 06:34 PM
this thread exists purely so ubers can fanboy over weavile
also cloyster should be higher, shell smash is awesome

UbersSuck20
10-12-2013, 07:21 PM
Can you show me some replays with you beating people above 1700+ with Cloyster?

And please explain how do I fanboy over Weavile. It's certainly better than Abomasnow and Kyurem because it doesn't need hail to function, but not only that (because by that logic Stoutland and Sawsbuck shouldn't be S rank in the normal thread). It's much, much faster and has access to Pursuit and Low Kick. However, it's not on the same level as Mamo and K-B, who are much bulkier and possess higher attacking stats.

Weavile is now A rank so Kyuubi can shut the hell up.

Dragonite
10-13-2013, 03:24 PM
Weavile should move up. Weavile is the main reason I don't play UU.

Aaron
10-13-2013, 04:27 PM
Yeah, Weavile should be moved up. It's a lot better than Abomasnow, who is basically just the lead for a Hail team. Not much else there.

UbersSuck20
10-13-2013, 05:04 PM
As much as I love it I don't think it can be considered S rank. Weavile does have notable flaws, such as not doing much against defensive teams and being setup fodder for some dangerous sweepers.

The ranking system has been restructured (Lapras, Rotom-F and Beartic have been removed, and everything bar Mamo, K-B and Weavile is one tier lower)