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gengar ftw
06-13-2011, 08:52 AM
Ok. This is my Ou competitive battling team. Please leave effective critisism as this is my first online team. This is 5th gen.

Salamence@Life Orb
Nature:Rash
Ability: Intimidate
Evs:116 atk, 216 spatk and 176 speed.
Moves:
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Fire Blast
Draco Meteor

Salamence is my mix sweeper and wall breaker.


Gengar@Life Orb
Nature:Modest
Ability:Levitate
Evs:252 spatk and 252 speed.
Moves:
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt
Psychic

Gengar is a special sweeper and is basically your normal gengar. I have psychic because I hate Machamps.

Snorlax@Leftovers
Nature:Careful
Ability:Immunity
Evs:252 spdef and 252 HP
Moves:
Curse
Body Slam
Crunch
Rest

My special wall and tank. Set up with curse and then possibly sweep.


Skarmory@Leftovers
Nature:Impish
Ability:Sturdy
Evs: 252 def and 252 hp
Moves:
Spikes
Roost
Roar
Brave Bird

My physical wall, entry hazard layer and phaser. Sets up spikes then roars.

Thundurus@Life Orb/Leftovers
Nature:Timid
Ability:Prankster
Evs: 252 spatk and 252 speed
Moves:
Thunderbolt
Dark Pulse
Taunt
Nasty Plot

My other special sweeper. Is also a stall breaker because of taunt. Set up with nasty plot then sweep.

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Poison Heal
Evs: 252 atk and 252 speed
Moves:
Spore
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb
Substitute

Put to sleep, set up sub and then focus punch. Pretty standard.



So what do you think!
:)

Mindblown94
06-13-2011, 06:47 PM
On skarmory why roar and not whirlwind? I guess it doesn't really matter, but it's a bit odd.

For thundurus, you should replace dark pulse with HP ice for boltbeam coverage. if you have it for ghosts, they won't take a t-bolt too well after +2(really nothing will), so really not point in running dark pulse.

All I can really do is pick out a few things I know. Cloudnine and SIG will probably clear up the things I missed.

gengar ftw
06-13-2011, 11:09 PM
I was going to have hp ice but since I play on the ds I cant get the perfect ivs and what not. With the skarmory with roar I wanted brave bird and I couldnt be bothered chain breeding. If I could I would do those suggestions. Do people with hidden power use pokesav??? What do they use??? I might sound a bit clueless but yeah.

Mindblown94
06-13-2011, 11:59 PM
I was going to have hp ice but since I play on the ds I cant get the perfect ivs and what not. With the skarmory with roar I wanted brave bird and I couldnt be bothered chain breeding. If I could I would do those suggestions. Do people with hidden power use pokesav??? What do they use??? I might sound a bit clueless but yeah.


Ah yeah I forgot about that. I forgot not everyone uses sav/gen.

[MuSiCa]
06-14-2011, 12:45 AM
Lol I Just use PO xD

Classic Bolding technique. Works when there are lotsa mistakes.


Ok. This is my Ou competitive battling team. Please leave effective critisism as this is my first online team. This is 5th gen.

Salamence@Life Orb
Nature:Rash
Ability: Intimidate
Evs:116 atk, 216 spatk and 176 speed.
Moves:
Earthquake
Roost
Fire Blast
Draco Meteor

Salamence is my mix sweeper and wall breaker.
Meh well. Mixmence don't use Dragon Claw, it's either Outrage or Roost. Primarily Roost. Smogon says.

Gengar@Life Orb
Nature:Timid
Ability:Levitate
Evs:252 spatk and 252 speed.
Moves:
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Icy Wind / Thunderbolt / Disable
Substitute
Gengar is a special sweeper and is basically your normal gengar. I have psychic because I hate Machamps.
Machamps don't really exist now and besides, Salamence'll set them straight already. Timid. TIMID.

Snorlax@Leftovers
Nature:Careful
Ability:Thick Fat
Evs:252 spdef and 252 HP
Moves:
Curse
Body Slam
Crunch
Rest

My special wall and tank. Set up with curse and then possibly sweep.
Curselax in 5th Gen? Won't work. Too many Leech Seeders. Ferrothorn'll stop him, Conkeldurr... Blah. Replace him with Counterlax or Blissey. Or EvoChansey.


Skarmory@Leftovers
Nature:Impish
Ability:Sturdy
Evs: 252 def and 252 hp
Moves:
Stealth Rock
Roost
Roar
Brave Bird

My physical wall, entry hazard layer and phaser. Sets up spikes then roars.
SR is better than Spikes most of the time, especially since nowadays everything Levitates or Flys.

Thundurus@Life Orb/Leftovers
Nature:Timid
Ability:Prankster
Evs: 252 spatk and 252 speed
Moves:
Thunderbolt
HP Ice / Grass Knot
Taunt / Hammer Arm
Nasty Plot / Substitute

My other special sweeper. Is also a stall breaker because of taunt. Set up with nasty plot then sweep.
Normally if you wanna sweep, you have to have HP Ice, Thunderbolt, and Hammer Arm. Since you can't sweep, just go with Substitute and Grass Knot to take down your common counters.

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Poison Heal
Evs: 252 atk and 252 speed
Moves:
Spore
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb
Substitute

Put to sleep, set up sub and then focus punch. Pretty standard.
Standard



So what do you think!
:)

Aura Master
06-14-2011, 03:25 AM
Everything that SIG said is pretty much what needs fixed. What I would suggest is have Salamence either Completely Physical and give him Outrage instead of Dragon Claw, and no Draco Meteor, Adamant natured of course, or have a better Mixed set. I don't know about having him as a mixed sweeper anyways, but it's up to you(and maybe take SIG's advice, he is an expert on sets). ALWAYS keep a standard Gengar Timid since a lot of things ourspeed him this Gen. And then Skarmory with rocks. Thats pretty much all I have to contribute ^_^

[MuSiCa]
06-14-2011, 03:50 AM
You do realise that Standard Gengar is Timid, right?

Aura Master
06-14-2011, 03:54 AM
Ah crap! I ment to put that, wrote too much and didn't see it I guess. Sorry, I'll fix it :/

gengar ftw
06-14-2011, 07:29 AM
Okay, so is this a little better?

Salamence@Life Orb
Nature:Rash
Ability: Intimidate
Evs:116 atk, 216 spatk and 176 speed.
Moves:
Earthquake
Dragon Claw
Fire Blast
Draco Meteor


Gengar@Life Orb
Nature:Timid
Ability:Levitate
Evs:252 spatk and 252 speed.
Moves:
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt
Substitute

Blissey@Leftovers
Nature:Bold
Ability:Natural Cure
Evs:252 def and 252 HP
Moves:
Soft Boiled
Aromatherapy
Seismic Toss
Toxic

Skarmory@Leftovers
Nature:Impish
Ability:Sturdy
Evs: 252 def and 252 hp
Moves:
Stealth Rock
Roost
Roar
Brave Bird

Thundurus@Life Orb/Leftovers
Nature:Timid
Ability:Prankster
Evs: 252 spatk and 252 speed
Moves:
Thunderbolt
Grass Knot
Taunt/ Hammer Arm
Nasty Plot

Breloom@Toxic Orb
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Poison Heal
Evs: 252 atk and 252 speed
Moves:
Spore
Focus Punch
Seed Bomb
Substitute

Ok so I kept mence the same because I hate being locked into outrage and then being confused. I also don't really like the idea of a healing move on a sweeper. Although I could put sub? For Gengar I did exactly what you said. I got a blissey but then i realised it can do NOTHING do gengar so i might put flamethrower on instead of seismic toss but I'm not that worried. Skarmory I did what you said. Thundurus I put in grass knot as I can't get perfect IVs as I said before. I don't know whether taunt or hammer arm as I dont like that speed drop because then I will have to switch and thundurus is weak to stealth rock.

So is it looking a bit better?

[MuSiCa]
06-14-2011, 08:02 AM
Yea OK. Thundurus's Hammer Arm is meant to be used for Blissey and Blissey alone, so at most you'll be losing 50% Of your Health to Stealth Rock.

gengar ftw
06-14-2011, 08:10 AM
Right, blissey, that evil little pink blob who puts a hult to my sweeping. I will but hammer arm on but does it mean I will have to change the evs?

[MuSiCa]
06-14-2011, 08:45 AM
Just the Nature, to either Naive or Hasty.

gengar ftw
06-14-2011, 09:40 AM
Yep thanks for the help! :)

---------- Post added at 07:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:17 PM ----------

I just downloaded PO so I can do it all :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Gej707
06-18-2011, 02:06 AM
yea the team looks a lot better now

doctJ
06-18-2011, 02:09 AM
you might want to give your salamance hydro pump
Gengar is pretty good
snorlax is ok
skarmory is really good
thunderus pretty good
Breloom should have drain punch

Mindblown94
06-19-2011, 01:13 AM
you might want to give your salamance hydro pump
Gengar is pretty good
snorlax is ok
skarmory is really good
thunderus pretty good
Breloom should have drain punch

Why hydro pump on Salamence? There is no need for it. Drain punch on breloom is interesting too.