VALIS
09-08-2008, 12:19 AM
Alrighty well im trying to work on a team which has a variety of tricks that people won't expect everyday. Without further ado...here we go.
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Gengar @ Leftovers - Levitate
Timid - 252 special atk, 252 speed, 4 hp
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt/Focus Blast
- Substitute
- Hypnosis
This guy can be extremely tricky. A lot of times, if you see sub you think no hypnosis. This lead it meant to sleep the poke and then sub and attempt to sweep.
Why would they think this? I see no point in Sub at all. This spot can be filled with a real surprise like Focus Punch.
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Salamence @ Leftovers - Intimidate
Adamant - 100 hp, 252 atk, 20 defense, 136 speed
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Substittute
Lol this guy is so cool. He has some bulkyness in it and a small boost of defense allowed him to live some of the simplest super effective attacks. Also has some decent HP. 270 speed is all it needs to outspeed the basic stuff.
Wait, why are we subbing again? Do you just have a hardon for this move?
This is walled by levitating steels without fire blast, which I reccomend. Roost is also a good option with your bulkyness, helps you stay alive after setting up.
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Nidoqueen @ Leftovers - Poison Point
Impish - 252 HP, 252 def, 4 atk
- Toxic Spikes
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock/Sleep Talk
- Fire Blast/Rest/Roar
Another awsome poke who is one of the best Lucario counters in the game. Meant to get up Toxic Spikes, it can also take care of the other poison types who soak up toxic spikes usng EQ.
SR/Hypnosis/Roar/Sleep Talk/T-Bolt/Substitute/Ice Beam does not work here. Give me what set you're actually using so I give you a proper rate.
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Swampert @ Choice Band - Torrent
Adamant - 252 HP, 252 atk, 4 def
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- EQ
- Stone Edge/Sleep Talk
This thing is amazing. He hits amazingly hard and is also a great sleep talker. However im leaning more towards Stone Edge. He can take both physical and special attacks fairly well.
This is where I need to know the actual movesets. If Nido is a sleep talker/absorber that move is not needed here. No room for SR here?
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Cresselia @ Leftovers - Levitate
Timid - 94 HP, 202 speed, 212 special atk
- Psychic
- Hidden Power (Fighting)
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
94 HP gives him 101 sub. It can sub before Celebi can stall you. It outspeeds Lucarios and what not. And it has great coverage. This thing is just awsome....it's that simple. It's a sweeping Cress.
This is dumb and will not work, at all. Cress needs recovery, and is completely outclassed as a CMer.
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Arcanine @ Life Orb - Flash Fire
Naive - 228 atk, 92 Special Attack, 188 speed
- Extreemspeed
- Flare Blitz
- Thunder Fang
- Overheat
Well im tired of Heatran and I have used this guy with sucess before so I decide why not. He has priority, nice attack and even Overheat can do some damage. He takes away my slight ice weakness and my grass weakness as well.
Standard. good to see something thats not subbing/setting up/using some stupid gimmick.
Alright guys, this is just a rough draft of my team. Enjoy. Criticism is appreciated.
Azelf says GG. Get rid of gimmick cress and use standard to counter it.
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Gengar @ Leftovers - Levitate
Timid - 252 special atk, 252 speed, 4 hp
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt/Focus Blast
- Substitute
- Hypnosis
This guy can be extremely tricky. A lot of times, if you see sub you think no hypnosis. This lead it meant to sleep the poke and then sub and attempt to sweep.
Why would they think this? I see no point in Sub at all. This spot can be filled with a real surprise like Focus Punch.
http://th212.photobucket.com/albums/cc30/ardorin0810/th_salamence.png
Salamence @ Leftovers - Intimidate
Adamant - 100 hp, 252 atk, 20 defense, 136 speed
- Dragon Claw
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Substittute
Lol this guy is so cool. He has some bulkyness in it and a small boost of defense allowed him to live some of the simplest super effective attacks. Also has some decent HP. 270 speed is all it needs to outspeed the basic stuff.
Wait, why are we subbing again? Do you just have a hardon for this move?
This is walled by levitating steels without fire blast, which I reccomend. Roost is also a good option with your bulkyness, helps you stay alive after setting up.
http://th296.photobucket.com/albums/mm164/joe9412/th_Nidoqueen.png
Nidoqueen @ Leftovers - Poison Point
Impish - 252 HP, 252 def, 4 atk
- Toxic Spikes
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock/Sleep Talk
- Fire Blast/Rest/Roar
Another awsome poke who is one of the best Lucario counters in the game. Meant to get up Toxic Spikes, it can also take care of the other poison types who soak up toxic spikes usng EQ.
SR/Hypnosis/Roar/Sleep Talk/T-Bolt/Substitute/Ice Beam does not work here. Give me what set you're actually using so I give you a proper rate.
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Swampert @ Choice Band - Torrent
Adamant - 252 HP, 252 atk, 4 def
- Waterfall
- Ice Punch
- EQ
- Stone Edge/Sleep Talk
This thing is amazing. He hits amazingly hard and is also a great sleep talker. However im leaning more towards Stone Edge. He can take both physical and special attacks fairly well.
This is where I need to know the actual movesets. If Nido is a sleep talker/absorber that move is not needed here. No room for SR here?
http://th284.photobucket.com/albums/ll11/Deidarasgirl64/th_cresselia.png
Cresselia @ Leftovers - Levitate
Timid - 94 HP, 202 speed, 212 special atk
- Psychic
- Hidden Power (Fighting)
- Calm Mind
- Substitute
94 HP gives him 101 sub. It can sub before Celebi can stall you. It outspeeds Lucarios and what not. And it has great coverage. This thing is just awsome....it's that simple. It's a sweeping Cress.
This is dumb and will not work, at all. Cress needs recovery, and is completely outclassed as a CMer.
http://th300.photobucket.com/albums/nn4/iStrawberry12/pokemon/th_Arcanine.jpg
Arcanine @ Life Orb - Flash Fire
Naive - 228 atk, 92 Special Attack, 188 speed
- Extreemspeed
- Flare Blitz
- Thunder Fang
- Overheat
Well im tired of Heatran and I have used this guy with sucess before so I decide why not. He has priority, nice attack and even Overheat can do some damage. He takes away my slight ice weakness and my grass weakness as well.
Standard. good to see something thats not subbing/setting up/using some stupid gimmick.
Alright guys, this is just a rough draft of my team. Enjoy. Criticism is appreciated.
Azelf says GG. Get rid of gimmick cress and use standard to counter it.