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Eternal
09-23-2008, 09:35 PM
Got this off of Smogon list.

New Tutor Moves:


New Move Tutor Moves


Pastoria City - Dive, Fury Cutter, Icy Wind, Fire Punch, Thunderpunch, Ice Punch, Ominous Wind, Air Cutter, Zen Headbutt, Vacuum Wave, Trick, Knock Off, Sucker Punch

Snowpoint City - Snore, Spite, Helping Hand, Synthesis, Magnet Rise, Last Resort, Swift, Uproar

Survival Area - Mud Slap, Rollout, Superpower, Iron Head, Aqua Tail, Endeavor, Outrage, Ancientpower, Signal Beam, Earth Power, Gunk Shot, Twister, Seed Bomb, Iron Defense, Bounce, Heat Wave

If it's not on here, it doesn't mean it doesn't learn the move! Sorry for any mistakes; if it sounds too good to believe, check the file to confirm.

Edit: Moves are now in alphabetical order.

Air Cutter - Articuno, Zapdos, Drifblim, Altaria, Honchkrow, Yanmega, Vespiquen, Xatu, Mantine, Pelipper, Butterfree, Beautifly, Ledian, Togetic, Masquerain, Mothim

Ancientpower - Bronzor, Probopass, Marshtomp, Lunatone, Regigigas

Aqua Tail - Lapras, Walrein, Drapion, Seviper, Gligar, Quagsire, Salamence, Swampert, Slowbro, Slowking, Armaldo, Rhyperior, Golduck, Tyranitar, Garchomp, Floatzel

Dive - Politoed, Lanturn, Quagsire, Cloyster, Totodile

Earth Power - Regigigas, Whiscash, Quagsire, Swampert, Garchomp, Gastrodon, Torkoal, Torterra

Fire Punch - Rampardos, Probopass

Gunk Shot - Toxicroak, Slaking, Snorlax, Ambipom, Donphan, Infernape

Heat Wave - Zapdos, Togekiss, Crobat

Ice Punch - Lucario, Toxicroak, Floatzel, Probopass, Froslass

Icy Wind - Drifblim, Mismagius, Octillery, Shellos, Lanturn, Piloswine

Iron Defense - Armaldo

Iron Head - Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Kingdra, Probopass, Magnezone, Mamoswine, Bronzong, Miltank, Gyarados

Knock Off - Toxicroak, Ambipom, Empoleon, Kricketune, Seviper

Magnet Rise - Luxray

Mud-Slap - Kricketot

Ominous Wind - Moltres, Suicune, Salamence, Yanmega, Ninetales, Togekiss, Altaria, Vespiquen

Outrage - Salamence, Flygon, Nidoking, Kingdra, Snorlax, Gyarados, Lapras, Rhydon, Tauros, Marowak, Venusaur

Seed Bomb - Donphan, Cradily, Shiftry, Snorlax, Ambipom, Vileplume, Victreebel, Carnivine, Jumpluff

Signal Beam - Articuno, Cresselia, Regice, Magnezone, Glaceon, Espeon, Jolteon, Vaporeon, Hypno, Electrode, Manectric, Togekiss, Electivire, Starmie, Slowking, Alakazam, Slowbro, Froslass, Raichu, Jynx, Empoleon, Luxray, Bronzong, Claydol, Mr. Mime, Blastoise, Wormadam

Snore - Burmy

Sucker Punch - Shiftry, Froslass, Golem, Skuntank

Superpower - Dragonite, Flareon, Rampardos, Absol, Blaziken, Tyranitar, Snorlax, Mamoswine, Hippowdon, Luxray, Ursaring, Pinsir, Armaldo, Honchkrow, Donphan, Golem

Swift - Chingling, Chatot, Luxray

Synthesis - Cherrim

ThunderPunch - Rampardos, Lucario, Toxicroak, Flygon, Probopass

Trick - Porygon-Z, Drifblim

Twister - Zapdos, Crobat, Staryu

Vacuum Wave - Poliwrath

Zen Headbutt - Bronzong, Claydol, Lapras, Blastoise, Exeggutor, Solrock, Clefable, Medicham, Gallade

Some notables are that Salamence, Flygon, and Kingdra finally get Outrage. Any thoughts on how DD Kingdra might actually get usage or how Scarf Flygon might become more popular? Porygon-z gets Trick making a Trick Scarf set seem very viable for it. Lucario now gets Ice Punch meaning Gliscor will have to run 280 Speed to even try to counter it, but it isn't as if most Lucario today don't carry HP Ice. Shiftry gets Sucker Punch and Seed Bomb giving it two great physical movepool additions. With Lapras getting Zen Headbutt Weezing will have a much harder time dealing with it in UU making it a viable BL addition.

New Level-Up moves:


Level Up Move Additions:
008 Wartortle: Lv 40 Iron Defense
009 Blastoise: Lv 46 Iron Defense
010 Caterpie: Lv 15 Bug Bite
013 Weedle: Lv 15 Bug Bite
052 Meowth: Lv 54 Feint
053 Persian: Lv 68 Feint
055 Golduck: Lv -- Aqua Jet
071 Victreebel: Lv 47 Leaf Blade
083 Farfetch'd: Lv 43 Feint
095 Onix: Lv 38 Curse
123 Scyther: Lv -- Vacuum Wave
123 Scyther: Lv 61 Feint
134 Vaporeon: Lv 78 Muddy Water
135 Jolteon: Lv 78 Discharge
136 Flareon: Lv 78 Lava Plume
141 Kabutops: Lv -- Feint
158 Totodile: Lv 22 Flail
159 Croconaw: Lv 24 Flail
160 Feraligatr: Lv 24 Flail
163 Hoothoot: Lv 13 Uproar
164 Noctowl: Lv 13 Uproar
182 Belossom: Lv -- Leaf Blade
186 Politoed: Lv 48 Hyper Voice
196 Espeon: Lv 78 Power Swap
197 Umbreon: Lv 78 Guard Swap
199 Slowking: Lv -- Power Gem
200 Misdreavus: Lv 50 Power Gem
204 Pineco: Lv 9 Bug Bite
205 Forrtress: Lv --, 9 Bug Bite
208 Steelix: Lv 38 Curse
212 Scizor: Lv -- Bullet Punch
212 Scizor: Lv 61 Feint
213 Shuckle: Lv 40 Bug Bite
227 Skarmory: Lv 20 Feint
236 Tyrouge: Lv -- Foresight
243 Raikou: Lv 71 Rain Dance
244 Entei: Lv 85 Eruption
245 Suicune: Lv 85 Blizzard
265 Wurmple: Lv 15 Bug Bite
270 Lotad: Lv 25 Bubblebeam
271 Lombre: Lv 25 Bubblebeam
299 Nosepass: Lv 49 Power Gem
300 Skitty: Lv 4 Foresight
319 Sharpedo: Lv -- Feint
352 Kecleon: Lv 14 Feint
359 Absol: Lv -- Feint
377 Regirock: Lv -- Stomp
378 Regice: Lv -- Stomp
379 Registeel: Lv -- Stomp
399 Bidoof: Lv 45 Curse
400 Bibarel: Lv 53 Curse
401 Kricketot: Lv 16 Bug Bite
402 Kricketune: Lv 26 Slash
402 Kricketune: Lv 38 Taunt
402 Kricketune: Lv 42 Night Slash
412 Burmy: Lv 15 Bug Bite
413 Wormadam (All Forms): Lv 15 Bug Bite
414 Mothim: Lv 15 Bug Bite
415 Combee: Lv 13 Bug Bite
434 Stunky: Lv 18 Feint
435 Skuntank: Lv 18 Feint
451 Skorupi: Lv 34 Bug Bite
452 Drapion: Lv 34 Bug Bite
469 Yanmega: Lv 38 Feint
470 Leafeon: Lv 78 Swords Dance
471 Glaceon: Lv 78 Barrier
476 Probopass: Lv 49 Power Gem
480 Uxie: Lv 21 Swift
481 Mesprit: Lv 21 Swift
482 Azelf: Lv 21 Swift
486 Regigias: Lv -- Dizzy Punch
486 Reigigas: Lv -- Foresight
486 Regigias: Lv 25 Revenge
491 Darkrai: Lv -- Ominous Wind
491 Darkrai: Lv 29 Faint Attack
491 Darkrai: Lv 75 Nasty Plot
492 Shaymin (Both Formes): Lv -- Growth
492 Shaymin (Both Formes): Lv 82 Sweet Kiss
492 Shaymin (Land Forme): Lv 91 Healing Wish
492 Shaymin (Sky Forme): Lv 28 Quick Attack
492 Shaymin (Sky Forme): Lv 64 Air Slash
492 Shaymin (Sky Forme): Lv 91 Leaf Storm

Any thoughts or opinions on this upgrade?

Eternal
09-23-2008, 09:40 PM
Things that intrigued me:

Aqua tail on Drapion. Thats cool, SD + Aqua Tail, might effect the UU environment, but no STAB. He learns a water move, lol.
Gliscor with Aqua Tail = Thats really ahrd to believe, but its cool. Although I don't see the necessity of it.
Rhyperior + Garchomp + Tyranitar all have Aqua Tail as well, lol.
Zapdos + Togekiss + Crobat with Heat Wave, pretty hard to believe.
Ice Punch for Lucario, makes up for HP Ice except with more power and SD. Thats broken.
Salamence with Outrage, now it totally beats Dragonite.
Flygon with Outrage, this will really increase its popularity.
Kingdra with Outrage aswell, will definately make it OU. DD + Outrage and only weak to Dragon types nad bulky, that'll be a beast!
Gyarados with Outrage, really nice.
Tauros with Outrage, another reason to have it with CB + Outage.
Absol with Superpower will definately make Absol a BL Pokemon.

Bullet Punch for Scizor, no more Quick Attack and now it can get STAB with Technician = nice.
Golduck with Aqua Jet = Handy for UU battling.
Flareon with Lava Plume = Just became a better UU Pokemon.
Steelix + Curse = That'll raise him to BL
Bibarel + curse = dam thats broken. XD
Entei with Eruption = Very nice! Will definately move to OU.
Darkrai + nasty plot = Even more uber. XD

mosers15
09-23-2008, 09:41 PM
my top 3
1. elemental punches on lucario *yay*
2. Bullet Punch on scizor
3. Bibarel moving to ubers with curse now LMAO


and 4 because its necessary....
4. OUTRAGE ON SALAMENCE and KINGDRA ZOMG EPIC WIN

Jsaok4
09-23-2008, 09:41 PM
Oh my. O_O


Salamence for ubers lol.

Lucario is like Jesus now

bugcatcherjason
09-23-2008, 09:41 PM
where is the physical STAB for flareon?

zod
09-23-2008, 09:41 PM
like it... Lucario with ice punch, Salamence with outrage, entei with eruption... im starting to like platinum

Spannertastic
09-23-2008, 09:42 PM
Platinum seems like it's destroying lots of previous ideas about the calibre of things, like Shiftry now has sweet Physical STAB moves Seed Bomb and Sucker Punch to go off its already awesome 100 base attack that it previously could do nothing with.
Ice-Punch on Luke is just Broken.
Outrage on Salamence and Kingdra is awesome. There's no need to miss chomp at all now. Salamence just loves being better than Dragonite...
Earth Power on Swampert is fun too, Bring on Specialpert.

I would have loved for Flareon to get something nice other than Lava Plume though, Physical STAB that tops Fire Fang would be awesome.

Also, if anyone ever got into breeding in emerald to use the move tutors then you just got jibbed out of a job by Platinum. <_<
My Adamant Jirachi and Diamond bred Metagross love Platinum a lot ^_^

i am cool
09-23-2008, 09:42 PM
platinium is crazy. seed bomb donphan?? lol, some thing's don't make sense, the metagame wont' change a lot, as not many thing's are getting changed, so i see no point in my idiotic thread....someone close it.....back to topic, shaymin-s will be tested in ou, which is knida carazy, since we all know it's too brken there, garchomp got a rise of cressilia and colyster, shaymin s will get a rise of registeel and regice making them ou, since they counter him completely, although regice can be 2hkoed if rocks are up, but clear body really helps against the sp.def drop.

PokeNeo
09-23-2008, 09:42 PM
he'll learn ice punch it says i think gliscor will not be lucario's counter anymore lol

zod
09-23-2008, 09:43 PM
he'll learn ice punch it says i think gliscor will not be lucario's counter anymore lol
i agree... what will wall lucario now? seriously now after an sd nothing will wall lucario. More people will use it and the metagame will become boring once more.

DaPlayaFlow
09-23-2008, 09:43 PM
Scizor and kingdra are the most win out of the upgrades imo. I plan on not using lucario since i find him gayer than brightpowder chomp.. which i used

Carlo1003
09-23-2008, 09:43 PM
wow, luke is gonna be pwning
sweeet..

i am cool
09-23-2008, 09:44 PM
your theyroeymoning is stupid, ice pnuch was only ever used for gliscor, and nothing else, so i do not understand the difference between it and hp ice, it's only gonna be used on gliscor, and luke's counters still exist, like cressilia or even celebi who doesn't really mind an ice punch.

zod
09-23-2008, 09:44 PM
cresselia doesnt neccesarly wall luc. What can cresselia even do to luc? Paralyze it? A pshycic wont ko. And a +2 attack crunch will do a little bit more than half.

i am cool
09-23-2008, 09:44 PM
but once it uses crunch that means it's not using ice punch or hp ice....so a new coutner is reborn, that's why chomp is broken, it has 1 set that destroy's all it's counters unlike luke and co.

cat
09-23-2008, 09:44 PM
there should be a note of aqua tail salamence

aqua tail
EQ
outrage/dragon claw
brick break/fireblast/draco meteor

that set would make for a good scarf/band mence.

also remember that there is a possibility of more tutor moves that have not been found yet.

zod
09-23-2008, 09:45 PM
and now dragonite is going to bl for good. Mence finally now has the upper hand on it. Mence will be a like a garchomp with dd now.

Eternal
09-23-2008, 09:45 PM
Not really, Garchomp is a lot more powerful than Salamence. And Dragonite has more pwoer to deal than Salamence with Dragon Dance Outrage. They take SR damage and Garchomp doesn't take much. Thus Salamence will be too easy to counter.

While Lucario gets Ice Punch, it just means that Lucario is more unpredictable now. For example:

SD, ESpeed, CC, Crunch/Bullet Punch and compare it with

SD, Espeed, CC, Ice Punch

The first one is countered easily by Gliscors while thr 2nd one is easily countered by something like Gengar or Dusknoir.

You just need to know what that is, in order to counter it.

mosers15
09-23-2008, 09:45 PM
as far as luke goes...prediction will be the only way....like making sure its extreme speed not bullet punch...and then expecting a close combat and switching to like..gengar and focus blasting.....late game though luke will be even more unstoppable

cat
09-23-2008, 09:45 PM
lucario@ salac berry
swords dance
substitute
close combat
ice punch

nice amirite?

zod
09-23-2008, 09:46 PM
lucario@ salac berry
swords dance
substitute
close combat
ice punch

nice amirite?
walled by d-noir

i am cool
09-23-2008, 09:46 PM
how is it walled by dusknoir, unless he has fire punch then no, it's not walled by it.

Spannertastic
09-23-2008, 09:46 PM
how is it walled by dusknoir, unless he has fire punch then no, it's not walled by it.

Lots of noir's carry EQ, Fire Punch or Focus Punch even, so yes, it's walled by noir.

i am cool
09-23-2008, 09:47 PM
ok......

Eternal
09-23-2008, 09:47 PM
lucario@ salac berry
swords dance
substitute
close combat
ice punch

nice amirite?
walled by d-noir

Still that's pretty nice...

it decentralizes the game.

i am cool
09-23-2008, 09:47 PM
hypno acc has eben lowered to 60, this will affect gengar, zong and yanmega a lot.

Eternal
09-23-2008, 09:47 PM
hypno acc has eben lowered to 60, this will affect gengar, zong and yanmega a lot.

Hypnosis is broken. Its better that way. I'm really glad.

Spannertastic
09-23-2008, 09:48 PM
hypno acc has eben lowered to 60, this will affect gengar, zong and yanmega a lot.

Hypnosis is broken. Its better that way. I'm really glad.

amen to that

i am cool
09-23-2008, 09:49 PM
it never seems to hit, so it's not like anything godly will happen.

DaPlayaFlow
09-23-2008, 09:50 PM
I reckon that's ****. **** you nintendo

cat
09-23-2008, 09:50 PM
to those who have been hatin on my luke set, just run luke with
spiritomb
rest/sleep talk/calm mind/dark pulse

i am cool
09-23-2008, 09:51 PM
yup, that counters all his counters, that set might work, unless the bouncing magikarp eats it alive.

cat
09-23-2008, 09:51 PM
with bounce, gyara gets a physical flying stab. too bad its a stupid two turn move.

Statigar
09-23-2008, 09:51 PM
this platinum stuff is annoying me o.o

Duskie
09-23-2008, 09:52 PM
with bounce, gyara gets a physical flying stab. too bad its a stupid two turn move.

Fly ftw

Yola
09-23-2008, 09:52 PM
WHAT the hell!! Zapdos with Heatwave! so broken1 i mean it defys the laws of physics and imaging Zapdos doing Heat wave is just too much!!

Arianna
09-23-2008, 09:52 PM
OUTRAGE MENCE, FLYGONE AND KINGDRA <3

ikke
09-23-2008, 09:53 PM
WHAT the hell!! Zapdos with Heatwave! so broken1 i mean it defys the laws of physics and imaging Zapdos doing Heat wave is just too much!!you have no idea what broken means I see

Yola
09-24-2008, 12:22 AM
OMG! this is just stupid! man they are mixing things up so badly! i mean DP tutors were better then this! it would be fair to get a dragonite and Breed Outrage onto pokemon and it would also take a fair amount of levling! but now you just give a bunch of broken pieces and you have wacked out moves pokemon like them should never learn because it isn't possible throughout the generation! do you know what this means...

Lots of pokemon are gonna move Tiers! from BL to OU and maybe even Uber! all types of pokemon are gonna get moved up! tho it may seem a good thing it can be a bad thing i mean at this rate, Outrage will get Over used ALOT! and a altaria Safegaurd makes it all the more worse! at the worst case senerio they could say it's illegal to have a pokemon with outrage and another with Safegaurd or vice Versa

MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE PLATINUM! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!!

i am cool
09-24-2008, 06:45 AM
i'll hack anyone who calls yola a nub.....seriously ppl, farmer was a nub last year and look what he accomplished, we're here to help not flame noobs...they're people too...

but, in all seriousness, no drastic tier change will happen, if any at all, only ou pokes got upgraded and ou pokes got downgraded, for example scizor and salamence will still be ou, and these are the only pokes that new moves helped them, maybe honckrow, zapdos a little, but no tier changes will occur, darkrai is already uber just some upgrades, the new metagame is still like the old but with new faces, for example, now, instead of seeing, celebi/heatran/salamence/gyarados/infernape and **** like that, you see skymin/salamence/scizor/rotom-h etc....

Snypar
09-24-2008, 10:33 AM
.....I'm just stunned at that BS, I was a nub but did anyone help me, No I had to learn my **** the hard way, These days you **** a tutor and your great, Yola please just don't embarrass yourself. >_>

ekspo
09-24-2008, 10:56 AM
.....Yola please just don't embarrass yourself. >_>

Rofl, well said <.< and your right.. its allll BS >.>

i am cool
09-25-2008, 02:32 PM
i never had anyone to tutor me, im' stilltrying to figure out how i got this good, i mean, i started batteling competitvely 2 month ago.....i played pokemon from gen1.....i'm confused...

ikke
09-25-2008, 02:47 PM
i never had anyone to tutor me, im' stilltrying to figure out how i got this good, i mean, i started batteling competitvely 2 month ago.....i played pokemon from gen1.....i'm confused...
I would be good too if I spend 1500 hours straight on pokemon :roll:

FYS-guard
10-04-2008, 05:58 AM
i never had anyone to tutor me, im' stilltrying to figure out how i got this good, i mean, i started batteling competitvely 2 month ago.....i played pokemon from gen1.....i'm confused...
I would be good too if I spend 1500 hours straight on pokemon :roll:

lol. i got good by watching some youtube vids and trying things out for myself. at first my prediction was dog ****. but now im kicking ***
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SpooKy
10-12-2008, 04:07 PM
I love the Platinum Moveset Additions