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09-24-2008, 01:23 AM
Sceptile, the tree pokemon, arguably one of the most underrated pokes, it's a mystery how this lil' fella isn't ou...
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Movesets:
Standard @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Energy Ball
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Hidden Power [Ice] / Hidden Power [Fire] / Focus Punch
Sceptile was a beast in ADV. It isn't as beastly as it is now, but I can tell you, this thing kicks ***.
As annoying as this sceptile is, It would start off with Leech Seed IF it was faster than the opponents pokemon and if they switched out.
Otherwise, If Aerodactyl came in, you should Switch Out straight away.
After you Leech Seed your opponent, you would substitute away.Your heart desires it.
Leech Seed saps quite abit of HP out of them, and into you, givinhg you more substitute uses.
Energy Ball is to replace Leaf Blade, which turned physical.
Same stuff, acts like Leaf Blade. Less Hax. More -Sp. Def on the opponent.
Hidden Power type depends on your team. If you are more afraid of dragons (Dragonite, Salamence, Garchomp), use Hidden Power [Ice]. If you hate Forretress, use Hidden Power [Fire].
Standard V.2 @ Leftovers / Peteya Berry
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Energy Ball
- Substitute
- Endeavour
- Hidden Power [Ice]
This set is the same as the abover, just with no Leech Seed.
You substitute until you have low HP. And use endeavour (better if you have a sub still on.)
HP Fire isn't really useful here, as Endeavour cuts right through Forretress. A leaf blade or HP Ice would kill it.
Energy Ball is really powerful when: Peteya Berry + Overgrow + STAB.
I feared it alot in ADV.
If you're running Peteya Berry, make sure that your opponent doesn't have a tyranitar. That's why I run Leftys sometimes.
Specs tree@ Choice Specs
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Ice]/ Hidden Power [Fire]
- Focus Blast
- Energy Ball / Draogn Pulse
not much comment here, this just hit's fast and hard.
the dancing tree @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
- Leaf Blade
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide / X-Scissor / Night Slash / Crunch / Focus Punch/ Thunderpunch
This set is a set probably no one would expect.
A swords dancer set.
The idea is to swords dance up, and attack them with the moves you need.
Leaf Blade turned physical, so we should make use of Sceptiles old favourite move and use it with swords dance, since sceptile didn't have any physical grass moves in ADV.
Earthquake is for Metagross / Infernape.
The last move depends on what your team really needs.
tree of choise @ Choice Band / Choice Scarf
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd (Choice Band)
4 HP / 200 Atk / 152 Spd / 100 Sp. Atk (Scarf)
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Atk) (Band)
Mild Nature (+Spd, -Def) (Scarf)
- Leaf Blade / Energy Ball
- Earthquake /Hidden Power [Ice]
- X-scissor / Thunderpunch
- Rock Slide/Night Slash / Crunch/ Focus Punch
I guess this set is unexpected too, since I don't think anyone would expect a Physical Sceptile.
Choice Scarf just makes it able to outspeed Aero, Azelf etc.
sunny day sweeper @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Sunny Day
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Solarbeam
- Grasswhistle
The idea of this set is to use grasswhistle to make your opponent sleep.
After that, you'd use Sunny Day, and HP Fire would get powered by the sun and solarbeam would be able to hit pretty good.
I don't think this set is used very often though. If only it had that trait that could double it's epeed in the sun.
sash tree @ Focus Sash
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Timid (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice] / Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leaf Storm / Energy Ball / Grass Knot
- Counter
- Endeavour
The use of this set is to get attacked by an attack very powerful. (Meteor Mash, Aerial Ace, etc.)
You must use Counter to defeat that pokemon so you can use Endeavour to leave your opponent's next pokemon on low HP.
Hidden Power [Ice] / [Fire] for type coverage.
trap tree @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Leaf Blade
- Pursuit / Focus Punch
- Screech
- Rock Slide / Drain Punch / Earthquake/ Bullet Seed / X-scissor
This set is used to lower defences of other pokemon and force switches.
Screech your opponents pokemon, and they will probably switch.
That's when your 2nd move choice comes in.
Pursuit can deal damage even harder when screeched, and Focus Punch can hurt the special walls that come in.
the last move depends on what you fear most.
This set needs abit of prediction, but I prefer pursuit.
Other Options:Scpetile's sepcial movepool isn't as big as it's physical movepool, but we can add in some support moves:
- [color=brown]Grasswhistle (You can use it, but It's accuracy isn't exactly like spore.)
- Worry Seed (If you hate some pokemon's traits but bestly used in doubles
- A set with synthesis might do pretty good.
- Quick Attack on a physical set if you need that extra boost.
- Screech to force switches and lower defences.
Opinion:
Scpetile is a very good, speedy, dependable BL in the DP metagame, serving as a leech seeder, and can sleep other pokemon.
A pretty good sweeper too.
If it only was in OU again.
Counters:
[color=indigo]Sceptiles counters mostly revolve around the fast pokemon in OU and BL. Some walls are included.
- Aerodactyl and Jolteon could hurt Sceptile pretty badly
- Dusknoir or Cresselia doesn't mind the attacks, unless Sceptile has Endeavour.
http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/sceptile.png
Movesets:
Standard @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Energy Ball
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Hidden Power [Ice] / Hidden Power [Fire] / Focus Punch
Sceptile was a beast in ADV. It isn't as beastly as it is now, but I can tell you, this thing kicks ***.
As annoying as this sceptile is, It would start off with Leech Seed IF it was faster than the opponents pokemon and if they switched out.
Otherwise, If Aerodactyl came in, you should Switch Out straight away.
After you Leech Seed your opponent, you would substitute away.Your heart desires it.
Leech Seed saps quite abit of HP out of them, and into you, givinhg you more substitute uses.
Energy Ball is to replace Leaf Blade, which turned physical.
Same stuff, acts like Leaf Blade. Less Hax. More -Sp. Def on the opponent.
Hidden Power type depends on your team. If you are more afraid of dragons (Dragonite, Salamence, Garchomp), use Hidden Power [Ice]. If you hate Forretress, use Hidden Power [Fire].
Standard V.2 @ Leftovers / Peteya Berry
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Energy Ball
- Substitute
- Endeavour
- Hidden Power [Ice]
This set is the same as the abover, just with no Leech Seed.
You substitute until you have low HP. And use endeavour (better if you have a sub still on.)
HP Fire isn't really useful here, as Endeavour cuts right through Forretress. A leaf blade or HP Ice would kill it.
Energy Ball is really powerful when: Peteya Berry + Overgrow + STAB.
I feared it alot in ADV.
If you're running Peteya Berry, make sure that your opponent doesn't have a tyranitar. That's why I run Leftys sometimes.
Specs tree@ Choice Specs
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Ice]/ Hidden Power [Fire]
- Focus Blast
- Energy Ball / Draogn Pulse
not much comment here, this just hit's fast and hard.
the dancing tree @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Sp. Atk)
- Leaf Blade
- Earthquake
- Swords Dance
- Rock Slide / X-Scissor / Night Slash / Crunch / Focus Punch/ Thunderpunch
This set is a set probably no one would expect.
A swords dancer set.
The idea is to swords dance up, and attack them with the moves you need.
Leaf Blade turned physical, so we should make use of Sceptiles old favourite move and use it with swords dance, since sceptile didn't have any physical grass moves in ADV.
Earthquake is for Metagross / Infernape.
The last move depends on what your team really needs.
tree of choise @ Choice Band / Choice Scarf
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd (Choice Band)
4 HP / 200 Atk / 152 Spd / 100 Sp. Atk (Scarf)
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Atk) (Band)
Mild Nature (+Spd, -Def) (Scarf)
- Leaf Blade / Energy Ball
- Earthquake /Hidden Power [Ice]
- X-scissor / Thunderpunch
- Rock Slide/Night Slash / Crunch/ Focus Punch
I guess this set is unexpected too, since I don't think anyone would expect a Physical Sceptile.
Choice Scarf just makes it able to outspeed Aero, Azelf etc.
sunny day sweeper @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 Sp. Atk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Sunny Day
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Solarbeam
- Grasswhistle
The idea of this set is to use grasswhistle to make your opponent sleep.
After that, you'd use Sunny Day, and HP Fire would get powered by the sun and solarbeam would be able to hit pretty good.
I don't think this set is used very often though. If only it had that trait that could double it's epeed in the sun.
sash tree @ Focus Sash
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 SAtk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Timid (+Spd, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Ice] / Hidden Power [Fire]
- Leaf Storm / Energy Ball / Grass Knot
- Counter
- Endeavour
The use of this set is to get attacked by an attack very powerful. (Meteor Mash, Aerial Ace, etc.)
You must use Counter to defeat that pokemon so you can use Endeavour to leave your opponent's next pokemon on low HP.
Hidden Power [Ice] / [Fire] for type coverage.
trap tree @ Leftovers
Trait: Overgrow
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Leaf Blade
- Pursuit / Focus Punch
- Screech
- Rock Slide / Drain Punch / Earthquake/ Bullet Seed / X-scissor
This set is used to lower defences of other pokemon and force switches.
Screech your opponents pokemon, and they will probably switch.
That's when your 2nd move choice comes in.
Pursuit can deal damage even harder when screeched, and Focus Punch can hurt the special walls that come in.
the last move depends on what you fear most.
This set needs abit of prediction, but I prefer pursuit.
Other Options:Scpetile's sepcial movepool isn't as big as it's physical movepool, but we can add in some support moves:
- [color=brown]Grasswhistle (You can use it, but It's accuracy isn't exactly like spore.)
- Worry Seed (If you hate some pokemon's traits but bestly used in doubles
- A set with synthesis might do pretty good.
- Quick Attack on a physical set if you need that extra boost.
- Screech to force switches and lower defences.
Opinion:
Scpetile is a very good, speedy, dependable BL in the DP metagame, serving as a leech seeder, and can sleep other pokemon.
A pretty good sweeper too.
If it only was in OU again.
Counters:
[color=indigo]Sceptiles counters mostly revolve around the fast pokemon in OU and BL. Some walls are included.
- Aerodactyl and Jolteon could hurt Sceptile pretty badly
- Dusknoir or Cresselia doesn't mind the attacks, unless Sceptile has Endeavour.