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.Asterisk
11-12-2008, 11:46 PM
Well, ice is my favorite type, so i'm working on one with mostly ice in it. Sometimes its worked, sometimes it was horrible for me, and it doesn't help that i'm very rusty, so i'm trying to find any holes or anything in need of improvement. Hope you guys can help.

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Abomasnow @ Leftovers
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 HP, 76 Spd, 84 SpA, 96 SpD
Nature: Sassy
- Blizzard
- Wood Hammer
- Leech Seed
- Protect

Well, Ability causes hail, which helps practically my entire team and nullifies leftovers. He hits pretty hard too while healing himself with Seed and his own Leftovers. Kind of confused, whenever I go against a starting Hippowdon, Sand Stream stays in effect. Does that mean i need to be slower than Hippowdon? (Which, i'm pretty sure is impossible)

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Weavile @ Expert Belt
Ability: Pressure
Nature: Adamant
EV's: 42 HP, 252 Atk, 216 Spe
- Aerial Ace
- Brick Break
- Ice Shard
- Pursuit

Kicks arse. Not a fan of Choice Items so Expert Belt it is.

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Glaceon @ Life Orb
Ability: Snow Cloak
Nature: Modest
EV's: 6 HP, 120 Def, 252 sAtk, 132 sDef
- Mirror Coat
- Blizzard
- Shadow Ball
- Curse

Some added survivability plus awesome special attack. Snow Cloak helps it avoid hits too. Thinking of giving it Brightpowder instead of Life Orb...

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Skarmory @ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
Nature: Bold
EVs: 252 HP, 4 Atk, 252 Def
-Toxic
-Spikes
-Roar
-Steel Wing

..Yeah. one of my few non- Ice types. Does its pseudo-hazing thing quite well unless obviously something of the special persuasion comes in =.=" Not too confident about it either.

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Mamoswine @ Expert Belt
Ability: Snow Cloak
Nature: Adamant
EVs: 176 HP, 116 Atk, 196 Spe, 20 SpD
- Earthquake
- Ice Shard
- Protect
- Toxic

Does some nice damage, and supports the team well. Usually KOs or forces switching.

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Empoleon @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Nature: Calm
EVs: 252 HP, 4 Spe, 252 SpD

-Blizzard
-Surf
- Roar
- Stealth Rock

Special Wall that does nice special damage. Also can haze like Skarmory, and resists many types so it can set up and do damage with relative ease.

Statigar
11-13-2008, 12:53 AM
You have a severe fighting weakness with no counter.

I suggest adding a ghost / psychic pokemon to your team to counter them.

.Asterisk
11-13-2008, 01:03 AM
You have a severe fighting weakness with no counter.

I suggest adding a ghost / psychic pokemon to your team to counter them.

Hmm true. Surprised you didn't just go and suggest Gengar there lol. Perhaps him, or Dusknoir? Frosslass could probably work too, but her defenses worry me...

Rioteer
11-13-2008, 04:40 PM
Infernape, lucario, machamp, a lot of pokes will rip through half this team before u could KO them. You need some bulky water and a ghost.

.Asterisk
11-13-2008, 07:47 PM
Killed all three in separate battles since I've been here without too much of a problem ^^; But i guess I've just been lucky, so i'll experiment with some ghosts and see how that goes.

Rock Head
11-13-2008, 08:29 PM
You have the biggest Tran weak in the world, If he predicts your Empoleon and uses Earth power which may not KO it but will KO in the next turn so it can become a nuicense when your Empoleon dies. My Suggestion is adding a Rotom-W instead of Skarmory, here is a set that will help you

Rotom-W@Leftovers
Bold
252 HP, 168 Def, 88 SAtk
Will-O-Wisp
Thunder Wave
Thunderbolt
Shadow ball

You don't know how many times thing thing has helped me, it neutralizes all the Physical attackers and can easily switch onto an Earthpower from Heatran and Thunder wave the switch in as no one would let themselves locked onto a move that has no effect on the opponent. If you feel lucky you can alos Will-O-Wisp knowing Heatran can't use Fire blast and they will probably switch to a Poke that can take a Rotom and then is where Will-o-Wisp helps. It's not only good at Blocking Heatran but it is good at switching and destroying potential counters your team might have

.Asterisk
11-14-2008, 08:30 PM
I'll try this, i kind of forgot about the new Rotoms, truth be told. Thanks :D

Sharingan
11-17-2008, 02:43 PM
dusknoir would be a good choice for a ghost...stall walrein wif ice body would be good too...lol

zod
11-20-2008, 02:03 AM
Being the ice gym leader i thought i would rate this rmt. ^_^
Obamasnow is only a lead if its scarfed. Or else it gets plain raped by everything else thats lead. And infernape (AKA one of the biggest threats for a hail team) just goes through it with nothing at all. Also the hated very annoying T-Tar ruins all your fun. So common in every team its annoying. Nothing can switch into ttar safely. So maybe a gliscor can help you there. Also have a bulky water on your team for that ape and fire pokes. Hmmm yea a ghost poke can help you out gengar, froslass, or d-noir. And then you got to think of the sr damage and spikes and t-spikes that a hail team just loves. Maybe a starmie to rapid spin them away? Have psychic on the starmie incase a gengar wants to take the rapid spin cause gengar usually lives a surf if starmie's not max Special Attack. Oh and lets not forgot the big fat bundle of love Blissey which hail teams find hard to take down. I would think a ..... this is a hard one. Well choose something that can take out blissey that will help out a hail team for your own choice. Anyways just wanted to help. =)

durogkee
11-24-2008, 07:35 AM
try using froslass, it works well for my hailstrom team ^^ the snowcloak ability is pretty good but dont overestimate. here's my lineup

abomasnow,weavile,lapras,froslass,glaceon,mamoswin e.