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Prodigy
11-26-2008, 09:17 PM
Lapras' offensive stats and great wallbreaking typing in UU make a mixed DD set very viable.I've been trying this set out a bit, and it's been fairly effective at doing plenty of damage to opposing teams.

[SET]
name: Mixed Dragon Dancer
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Return / Waterfall
move 3: Hydro Pump
move 4: Ice Beam
item: Life Orb
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Naughty / Lonely
evs: 16 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spd / 16 SAtk

[SET COMMENTS]


Lapras' typing is often looked down upon, but it's actually a blessing in disguise when you're looking at a physical sweeper in UU. This Lapras is meant as a semi-wallbreaker to lure out its common UU counters and dispatch them with ease using its strong STAB special attacks.</p>



Dragon Dance is obvious, as it boosts Lapras' mediocre Speed and Attack while drawing out physical counters. Its physical move is a matter of choice; Return prevents you from being walled entirely from Water-types such as Blastoise and Poliwrath, but Waterfall provides STAB if you want the boosted power.</p>



Hydro Pump with the noted EVs is an exact OHKO on standard 252 HP / 136 SpD Impish Steelix, and is also an OHKO on Aggron and a 2HKO on Weezing, Drapion, Probopass, Claydol, Miltank, and other notable walls. Ice Beam is an easy OHKO on Altaria and Leafeon. It also deals 66.48% - 79.44% to standard 216 HP / 0 SpD Bold Meganium, and 57.95% - 68.75% to the standard 244 HP / 128 SpD Calm Vileplume.</p>



Once your opponents catch on to your special attacks, they might be tempted to send in some special walls. That's why this Lapras is equipped to hit things on both ends of the spectrum.</p>



+1 Return versus...</p>



252/252 Bold Blastoise: 35.64% - 41.99% - 3HKO</p>


252/0 Calm Mantine: 47.9% - 56.59% - 30% chance of 2HKO with Lefties, 100% chance with SR.</p>


252 HP Adamant Poliwrath: 34.64% - 40.89%- 98% chance of 3KO with Lefties.</p>


252 HP/0 Def Grumpig: 69.78% - 82.14% - 2HKO</p>


252 HP/56 Def Hypno: 56.15% - 66.31% - 2HKO</p>


40 HP/0 Def Lanturn: 69.08% - 81.3% - 2HKO</p>


252 HP/0 Def Articuno: 46.35% - 54.69% - 53% chance of OHKO with SR.</p>


252 HP/0 Def Clefable: 58.88% - 69.29% - 2HKO</p>


252 HP/152 Def Bold Clefable: 44.16% - 52.03% - 10% chance of 2HKO.</p>


252 HP/0 Def Calm Flareon: 80.54% - 94.91% - OHKO with SR</p>


252 HP/0 Def Adamant Muk: 54.59% - 64.25% - 2HKO</p>



The end result is that after a Dragon Dance, this Lapras is incredibly effective at hitting both the premiere physical walls and the premier special walls in UU.</p>



Life Orb and Hydro Pump are required for most of these 2HKOs- Surf requires 156 SpA EVs and a boosting nature to OHKO Steelix, even with a Life Orb, which makes this Lapras rather harmless on the physical side. Naughty Nature gives a more effective distribution of defenses, but many of the things this Lapras is designed to hit attack primarily from the special side, so Lonely may be preferred to take things like Energy Ball or unSTABed Thunderbolt. EVs outspeed Max Speed Leafeon and Drapion with a boosting nature after one DD, and Electrode after two.</p>
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+1 Return versus...

252/252 Bold Blastoise: 35.64% - 41.99% - 3HKO
252/0 Calm Mantine: 47.9% - 56.59% - 30% chance of 2HKO with Lefties, 100% chance with SR.
252 HP Adamant Poliwrath: 34.64% - 40.89%- 98% chance of 3KO with Lefties.
252 HP/0 Def Grumpig: 69.78% - 82.14% - 2HKO
252 HP/56 Def Hypno: 56.15% - 66.31% - 2HKO
40 HP/0 Def Lanturn: 69.08% - 81.3% - 2HKO
252 HP/0 Def Articuno: 46.35% - 54.69% - 53% chance of OHKO with SR.
252 HP/0 Def Clefable: 58.88% - 69.29% - 2HKO
252 HP/152 Def Bold Clefable: 44.16% - 52.03% - 10% chance of 2HKO.
252 HP/0 Def Calm Flareon: 80.54% - 94.91% - OHKO with SR
252 HP/0 Def Adamant Muk: 54.59% - 64.25% - 2HKO

A few Calcs.

Also Ive had suggestions to put in T-Bolt to see how it would work and here are some calcs.


252 HP/252 SpD Calm Mantine: 53.89% - 64.67% - 2HKO
252 HP/0 SpD Adamant Poliwrath: 44.79% - 53.13% - 21% chance of 2HKO
252 HP/0 SpD Bold Blastoise: 42.54% - 50.28% - .33% chance to 2HKO, 31% chance with SR.

Point is +1 return is better.

Credit to SDS for helping me with some of the calcs.

:wink:

Iconic
11-26-2008, 09:35 PM
Some fantastic work here. I'm not sure if all the calcs are necessary, but they really help illustrate your point. Be sure to post on the reserving analyses thread though, because at first I thought you had made a complete Lapras Analysis (which has been done). I'll add this to the current Lapras Analysis now. Keep up the good work ;).

EDIT: James give me power on the TU- Complete Analysis section lol.

Prodigy
11-26-2008, 09:59 PM
Thanks ;D

Dimes
11-26-2008, 10:33 PM
Prodigy, you need more than one set. One set doesn't make an analysis. Also, I do believe that there is a Lapras analysis.

Rock Head
11-26-2008, 10:35 PM
yeah, you need at least 5 to have a decent analysis and 5 GOOD ones not crappy ones i look at and hurl

Prodigy
11-26-2008, 11:33 PM
could a mod change the title?

"Lapras Set"

Iconic
11-27-2008, 12:03 AM
Yes, the Lapras Analysis was already done. This is just a specific set.

mosers15
11-27-2008, 05:03 AM
nice set....ill have to try it out sometime...Iconic Ill ask eternal to give you power in both the analysis sections.

Also thanks for taking the liberty of adding it to the already existing analysis

i am cool
12-06-2008, 09:29 AM
Thanks a lot ofr this contribution. mix dd lapras ish ubaaa.

Dimes
12-06-2008, 11:05 PM
yeah, you need at least 5 to have a decent analysis and 5 GOOD ones not crappy ones i look at and hurl

Not really. And is it me, or do you always hurl at good sets?

Strype McClaine
02-22-2009, 05:15 AM
http&#58;//teamuber&#46;net/forum/viewtopic&#46;php?f=114&p=17335#p17335

Didn't I essentially post a mixed dancing set when I did the analysis?
If you want it can be added into it.

Sheep
02-26-2009, 06:00 PM
No you didn't.

ShinyRoserade
01-09-2011, 07:35 PM
Nice work this really helped wit my Lapras and hes a big part in UU

nidayaqoob1230
04-09-2012, 02:40 PM
Lapras? If I remember right you get a Lapras from a person in firered but I have no idea where to find him in leafgreen. Can anyone help me out please?