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jonh18-
01-07-2009, 12:30 AM
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/6/6e/437.png
BROZONG- Iknow im not original on leads
item: lum berry
252 hp, 160 spd, 40 att, 58 def
Moves:
stealth rock
gyro ball
earthquake
explosion
This is the best pokemon that makes me get sr in play without getting this thing ,killed on the first turn then the 2nd best thing it does is explode on the opponents'face.


http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/c/cb/Spr_4p_472.png
GLISCOR-jolly-leftovers
210hp, 48att, 252speed
sword dance
earthquake
roost
stone edge
Gliscor can **** with 1 or 2 sds which are not really hard to pull off because of its extreme bulkiness. Sincebp gliscor is a bit more common ppl will often switch into a hazer and thats when this bat can be more useful. People don't realize how easy is to set up with this 8)



http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/3/31/Spr_4d_485.png
HEATRAN-Timid-shuca berry
252spa, 252speed, 6hp
dragon pulse
fire blast
earth power
hp grass
surprise is what this poke is all about. kills weakened perts. and trans/dugtrios that switch on this thinking its scarfed. This dood can sometimes scare ape and other pokes that are scared of its scarfed version. Although alot of prediction is required.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/8/83/Spr_4d_245.png
SUICUNE-bold-leftovers
252 hp, 130spa, 84def, 44spd
hp elect
Hydro pump
ice beam
roar
I use this evs to make it for its pathetic base sp att while Its still enough bulky to survive 1 or 2 big physical hits. with this ivs its def reach 320 (thats alot with a 404hp)
This is more of a gyara counter with hp elect. IT does well against mence with ice beam. hydro pump over surf to hit things harder like scisors. Roar is for scout and haze the annoying passers excluding gliscor that gets easely ohko by ice beam.


http://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/upload/1/10/Spr_4d_068.png
Machamp-adamant-chesto berry
guts-252hp, 150att, 68spd, 20 def, 10 speed
payback
bulkup
crosschop
rest
Uber when it set ups 2 bu 10 speed is for out speeding other champs and bliss. Id rather choose guts because there is lots of wow users in the metagame. *cough* <_< rotoms *cough* chances are it will be burned before machamp can attack so payback owns those *******. ALso can switch on bliss t-wave and benefit from it. Fighting and dark hits all so its not bad at all. Rest is the way to go with bulk up :)



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GENGAR-rash-scarf
252speed, 200 spatt, 58 in att note: evs are around that but too lazy to check my shoddy team lul
shadow ball
explosion
thunderbolt
focus blast
This is just a nice revenge killer, owns gyara, weak mence, apes, celebis ........
(way to many pokes)I said weak mences and apes!! so dont try to tell me im wrong. I use explosion mainly to ohko bliss on a key moment.



well here is my team and It works pretty well for me.
comment and rate please!

welorg
01-07-2009, 12:31 AM
your team is bad and you should feel bad

welorg
01-07-2009, 12:33 AM
jk man
it looks pretty solid
of course i dont approve of cress but do what you will

jonh18-
01-07-2009, 12:33 AM
Stop fooling around <_<
constructive comments plz

jonh18-
01-07-2009, 12:34 AM
I know bout the cress its just that I dont find something better that fits with the team

welorg
01-07-2009, 12:36 AM
I know bout the cress its just that I dont find something better that fits with the team
mespirit does a better job

LatiosUnit
01-07-2009, 12:37 AM
I know bout the cress its just that I dont find something better that fits with the team

you ******* moron.
GARDEVOIR PLEASE.
trace for the win. 8)

zod
01-07-2009, 12:41 AM
Stop the double posting nightmare.
Anyways the team is weak to LO starmie, Infrenape, Heatran, Scizor, Zapdos with toxic, somewhat Ttar. Its got alot of good playas on it. Its just well... i guess you need to start battling with it and see how it goes. Thats the best way for making an awesome team.

Firas
01-07-2009, 02:38 AM
Im just gonna change the whole thing. You'll like it.


http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/6/6e/437&#46;png
BROZONG- Iknow im not original on leads
item: Life orb
252 Attack/252 HP
Moves:
stealth rock
gyro ball
earthquake
explosion
This is the best pokemon that makes me get sr in play without getting this thing ,killed on the first turn then the 2nd best thing it does is explode on the opponents'face.



http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/c/cb/Spr_4p_472&#46;png
GLISCOR-jolly-leftovers
210hp, 48att, 252speed
sd
earthquake
roost
stone edge
Gliscor can **** with 1 or 2 sds which are not really hard to pull off because of its extreme bulkiness 8). It rapes more then Michael Jackson u can be sure of it. Since
bp gliscor is a bit more common ppl will often switch into a hazer and thats when this bat can be more useful.



http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/3/31/Spr_4d_485&#46;png
HEATRAN-Timid-shuca berry
252spa, 252speed, 6hp
dragon pulse
fire blast
earth power
hp grass
surprise is what this poke is all about. kills weakened perts. and trans/dugtrios that switch on this thinking its scarfed. This dood can sometimes scare ape and other pokes that are scared of its scarfed version. Although alot of prediction is required.


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BLAstoise-modest-leftovers BEST THING EVAR.
252 hp, 90spa, 84def, 84spd
hp elect
surf
ice beam
roar
this is more of a gyara counter with hp elect. IT does well against mence with ice beam. surf for stab. Roar is for scout and haze the annoying passers excluding gliscor that gets ohko by ice beam.


http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/1/10/Spr_4d_068&#46;png
Machamp-adamant-chesto berry
guts-252hp, 150att, 68spd, 20 def, 10 speed
payback
bulkup
crosschop
rest
Uber when it set ups 2 bu 10 speed is for out speeding other champs and bliss. Id rather choose guts because there is lots of wow users in the metagame. *cough* <_< rotoms *cough* This just paybacks those bastards.And fighting and dark hits all so its not bad at all.



http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/0/0e/Spr_4d_094_s&#46;png
GENGAR-rash-scarf
252speed, 200 spatt, 58 in att note: evs are around that but too lazy to check my shoddy team lul
shadow ball
explosion
thunderbolt
focus blast
This is just a nice revenge killer, owns gyara, weak mence, apes, celebis ........
(way to many pokes) I use explosion mainly to ohko bliss on a key moment.



well here is my team and It works pretty well for me.
comment and rate please!

EeveeBreeder
01-08-2009, 03:52 PM
http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/6/6e/437&#46;png
BROZONG- Iknow im not original on leads
item: lum berry
252 hp, 160 spd, 40 att, 58 def
Moves:
stealth rock
gyro ball
earthquake
explosion

Easiest lead to pick apart from a crowd, just use a taunt lead and they're pretty much screwed over since there is no SR, but then he explodes and both pokemon suicided. Most people will switch to a Explosion counter, then Bronzong explodes in their face and they survive, leaving your zong dead and their pokemon still alive. Rating: 8.2/10

This is the best pokemon that makes me get sr in play without getting this thing ,killed on the first turn then the 2nd best thing it does is explode on the opponents'face.


http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/c/cb/Spr_4p_472&#46;png
GLISCOR-jolly-leftovers
210hp, 48att, 252speed
sword dance
earthquake
roost
stone edge

Honestly, if you get 2 sds in, you'll be dead by the time you pull off much. Taking 2 SD turns is getting too greedy, even my Rhyperior only takes 1 and sweeps. Rating: 7.9/10

Gliscor can **** with 1 or 2 sds which are not really hard to pull off because of its extreme bulkiness 8). It rapes more then Michael Jackson u can be sure of it. Since
bp gliscor is a bit more common ppl will often switch into a hazer and thats when this bat can be more useful.



http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/3/31/Spr_4d_485&#46;png
HEATRAN-Timid-shuca berry
252spa, 252speed, 6hp
dragon pulse
fire blast
earth power
hp grass

Suprise? No. Very common heatran set (cept the berry) with heatran attempting to defeat perts and suprise weaken a dugtrio. Not much to say here except it isn't a Suprise Heatran. Rating: 7.3/10

surprise is what this poke is all about. kills weakened perts. and trans/dugtrios that switch on this thinking its scarfed. This dood can sometimes scare ape and other pokes that are scared of its scarfed version. Although alot of prediction is required.

http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/8/83/Spr_4d_245&#46;png
SUICUNE-bold-leftovers
252 hp, 130spa, 84def, 44spd
hp elect
Hydro pump
ice beam
roar

Wow. You made it's base sp attack suck, and you expect HP Electric to count gyara? Gyara could take an HP electric from a suicune with that sp. attack. Then after he takes it, you die from gyara using DD then owning you with Stone edge or something. Trust me, you'll be long dead by the time anyone even sends out they're Gyara. Rating: 5.9/10

I use this evs to make it for its pathetic base sp att while Its still enough bulky to survive 1 or 2 big physical hits.
This is more of a gyara counter with hp elect. IT does well against mence with ice beam. hydro pump over surf to hit things harder like scisors. Roar is for scout and haze the annoying passers excluding gliscor that gets easely ohko by ice beam.


http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/1/10/Spr_4d_068&#46;png
Machamp-adamant-chesto berry
guts-252hp, 150att, 68spd, 20 def, 10 speed
payback
bulkup
crosschop
rest

And the epic Machamp that fails alot. Sure having Chesto Berry + rest is a great idea, but Guts is a bad choice. You should use No Guard because Cross Chop is pretty good at missing. Payback is a good idea. You'll probably never have the opportunity to get in more than 1 bulk up unless they totally fail to attack you. Rating: 7.1/10

Uber when it set ups 2 bu 10 speed is for out speeding other champs and bliss. Id rather choose guts because there is lots of wow users in the metagame. *cough* <_< rotoms *cough* This just paybacks those bastards.And fighting and dark hits all so its not bad at all. Rest is the way to go with bulk up :)



http&#58;//archives&#46;bulbagarden&#46;net/w/upload/0/0e/Spr_4d_094_s&#46;png
GENGAR-rash-scarf
252speed, 200 spatt, 58 in att note: evs are around that but too lazy to check my shoddy team lul
shadow ball
explosion
thunderbolt
focus blast

Revenge killer? Yes. Kills Mence and Ape? No. Killed By Mence and Ape? Yep. Mence and/or MixApe could beat down a Gengar, since Mence has great Sp. Def and can take some hits off of Gengar. Plus, if Mence uses Roost, Tbolt becomes NVE, making it terrible vs. a mence. Mence could easily get 2 DD's and sweep whatevers left of your team when vs. Gengar. Rating: 8.2/10

This is just a nice revenge killer, owns gyara, weak mence, apes, celebis ........
(way to many pokes) I use explosion mainly to ohko bliss on a key moment.

OTR (Overall Team Rating) : 8.3/10. Not the best when looking on type coverage, but it covers some major types with not many weaknesses. A Ninjask + Rhyperior would sweep though because you don't have a Rhyperior counter on the team.

well here is my team and It works pretty well for me.
comment and rate please!

Comments in Blue

jonh18-
01-08-2009, 10:18 PM
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jonh18-
01-08-2009, 10:28 PM
A Ninjask + Rhyperior would sweep though
I have roar suicune so I see theres alot of chances that that will happen(sarcasm)

Laurel
01-08-2009, 11:19 PM
Your Gengar weak your self if you loose a speed tie you loose.
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jonh18-
01-09-2009, 01:19 AM
yeah thats the point of my gengar being rash( I hate losing timid speed ties)
I could just sacrifice one of my pokes and it will do fine

EeveeBreeder
01-13-2009, 02:25 AM
A Ninjask + Rhyperior would sweep though
I have roar suicune so I see theres alot of chances that that will happen(sarcasm)

He would swords dance your switch then pwn you with EQ.