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i am cool
04-26-2009, 07:33 AM
Speed is probably the most important stat in the game. This is because with Attack or Special Attack, you can afford to be off by a point, as you have no control over the Random Damage Calculator. Additionally, if you don't KO the opponent, then there’s the possibility Sandstorm or Life Orb recoil will kill them. But in Speed, all you need is one point, and without Paralysis or other factors you will always outspeed the opponent.

Just a couple of notes when using this Speed Tier List: +pers is short for a positive Speed personality, a number (e.g. 252) means that many Speed EV's, and Scarf means that they have Choice Scarf on them. The number on the left is the Speed they hit, and then the number on the right is the Speed EV's they invest.

Tier 1:

- 598: http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/387.png+pers/252 Trick Scarf Deoxys-A (Base 150).

- 591: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_mewtwo.gif+pers/252 Trick Scarf Mewtwo (Base 130)

- 582:http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/120/shayminskyformjm3.png+pers/252 Scarf Skymin (Base 127).

- 558: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_groudon.gif252 Rock Polish Groudon (Base 90).

- 538: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_mewtwo.gifhttp://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpffb/dpffb230.png252 Trick Scarf Mewtwo (Base 130), and 252 Kingdra under Rain (Base 85).

- 532: http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/120/shayminskyformjm3.png252 Scarf Skymin (Base 127).

- 512: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_jumpluff.gifNo Speed Chlorophyll Jumpluff under Sun (Base 110).

- 504: http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/389.png+pers 252
Deoxys-E (Base 180).

- 499: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_garchomp.gif+pers/252 Scarf Garchomp (Base 102).

- 491: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_palkia.gif+pers/252 Scarf Palkia (Base 100).

- 478: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_ludicolo.gif252 Swift Swim Ludicolo under Rain (Base 70).

- 475: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_yanmega.gif+pers/252 Yanmega after a Speed Boost (Base 95).

- 459:http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_kyogre.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_groudon.gif+pers/252 Scarf Kyogre S/ Groudon (Base 90).

- 458: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_exeggutor.gif+pers/252 Chlorophyll Exeggutor under Sun (Base 55).

- 455: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_garchomp.gif 252 Scarf Garchomp (Base 102).

- 448: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_palkia.gif252 Scarf Palkia (Base 100).

- 442: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_heracross.gif +pers/252 Scarf Heracross (Base 85)

- 438:http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/387.png+pers/252 Deoxys-A / Deoxys (Base 150).

- 433: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_rayquaza.gif+252 Rayquaza after one Dragon Dance boost or if he’s holding a Choice Scarf (Base 95).

- 419: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_heatran.gif+pers/252 Scarf Heatran (Base 77).

- 418:http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_kyogre.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_groudon.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_dialga.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_exeggutor.gif+252 Scarf Kyogre / Groudon / Dialga (Base 90), and 252 Chlorophyll Exeggutor under Sun (Base 55).

- 409: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_smeargle.gif+pers/252 Smeargle after a Salac Berry boost (Base 75).

- 404: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_heracross.gif252 Scarf Heracross (Base 85).

Tier 2:

- 399:http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/387.png 252 Deoxys-A / Deoxys (Base 150).

- 393: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_metagross.gif +pers/252 Scarf Metagross (Base 70).

- 388: http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/120/shayminskyformjm3.png +pers/252 Skymin (Base 127).

- 383:
http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_darkrai.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_weavile.gif+pers/252 Darkrai / Weavile (Base 125).

- 372: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_dugtrio.gif+pers/252 Dugtrio (Base 120).

- 359: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_mewtwo.gif252 Modest Mewtwo (Base 130).

- 358: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_metagross.gif252 Scarf Metagross (Base 70).

- 350:http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_latias.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_latios.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_lugia.gif+pers/252 Latias / Latios / Lugia (Base 110).

- 333: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_garchomp.gif+pers/252 Garchomp (Base 102).

- 328: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_mew.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_manaphy.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_palkia.gif+pers/252 Mew / Manaphy / Palkia (Base 100).

Tier 3:

- 319:http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_latias.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_latios.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_lugia.gif252 Latias / Latios / Lugia (Base 110).

- 317: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_rayquaza.gif+pers/252 Rayquaza (Base 95)
306:http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_kyogre.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_groudon.gif+pers/252 Kyogre / Groudon (Base 90).

- 303: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_garchomp.gif252 Garchomp (Base 102).

- 289: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_rayquaza.gif252 Rayquaza (Base 95).

- 279: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_kyogre.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_groudon.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_dialga.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_giratina.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_ho-oh.gif
http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/388.pnghttp://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5752/giratinaoriginformon3.png 252 Kyogre / Groudon / Dialga / Giratina / Ho-oh / Deoxys-D / Giratina-O (Base 90).

- 273: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_smeargle.gif+pers/252 Smeargle (Base 75).

- 243: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_tyranitar.gif+pers/252 Tyranitar (Base 61).

- 239: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_metagross.gif252 Metagross (Base 70).

- 221: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_tyranitar.gif252 Tyranitar (Base 61).

- 216: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_kyogre.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_groudon.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_dialga.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_giratina.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_ho-oh.gif
http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/388.pnghttp://img382.imageshack.us/img382/5752/giratinaoriginformon3.png No Speed investment Kyogre / Groudon / Dialga / Giratina / Ho-oh / Deoxys-D / Giratina-O (Base 90).

Tier 4:

- 179: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpmfa/dpmfa292.png252 Shedinja (Base 40).

- 158: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_tyranitar.gifNo Speed investment Tyranitar (Base 61).

- 146: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_blissey.gifNo Speed investment Blissey (Base 55).

- 116: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpffsa/dpffsa205.png No Speed investment Forretress (Base 40).

- 102: http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpffsa/dpffsa202.png No Speed investment Wobbuffet / Bronzong (Base 33).

Milos
04-26-2009, 04:05 PM
This is very well done iac! Keep up the great work..also can I ask where you got those sprites?

i am cool
04-26-2009, 04:39 PM
http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_kyogre.gif Just change the name of the Pokemon to get a different sprite. EG: http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_groudon.gif
And thanks. Took me like 1 hour to fix up all the sprite issues...It's extremely hard coding advanced Sprites.

Eternal
05-03-2009, 10:04 PM
Rock Polish Mew maybe?

i am cool
05-04-2009, 03:02 AM
I never had any experience with that...May you please post the EV Spread so I know what Speed tier it hits before and after the Rock Polish?

Maku
05-04-2009, 11:03 AM
Great, this is very useful, great analysis,

ekspo
05-10-2009, 02:28 AM
as if you didnt add agiligross :o

i am cool
05-10-2009, 06:51 AM
Doesn't really work in Ubers because Groudon generally does it better.

ekspo
05-10-2009, 11:58 AM
then wouldnt Groudon outclass all other metagross's on your list? but yet u still have them lolz

i am cool
05-10-2009, 12:58 PM
The normal Choice Band Metagross has niches over Groudon; mainly being able to take more hits and Pursuit. However, Rock Polish is generally done better by Groudon.

Dimes
05-18-2009, 06:35 PM
447- +pers 252 scarf Rotom -W

i am cool
05-18-2009, 07:11 PM
C'est dependante. Est que tu peus donné moi une Sprite?

Tous les sites que j'ai chercher nos pas des Sprites qui travaille.

Dimes
05-20-2009, 08:00 PM
Go check Smogon then. I think that they have one up.

Vous ne parlez pas Francais, I_am_cool. :p