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Safe_Kid
05-03-2009, 12:58 PM
Team GG_TU_Asian-Dutch_Nightmare?

At a Glance

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Intro

Well as most of you all know Schaft is tutoring me. So we make teams quite regularly. This team here was originally designed around a SD ape. It didn’t work well at the time so we tried a few different things. At a glance you’ll see a balanced-offensive team, and that’s just how we play. I’m posting this RMT for 2 reasons, to get help from you guys to make the team better. The other reason is that lately on TU there hasn’t been many outstanding RMT or fairly good detailed ones in fact.


Closer Look

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Roserade (M) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 26 HP / 252 Sp Atk / 232 speed
Timid nature (+Speed, -Atk)
- Sleep powder
- Toxic Spikes
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power Fire

Roserade is the lead of this team, it serves many purposes and does really well against most lead. It scares the pants off swampert leads. It sleeps Metagross/Tran Leads. It uses HP Fire on the Scizors that switch in and sets up toxic spikes. Overall this lead is very good, has multi purpose. The only bad thing is the accuracy of Sleep powder.
We are considering HP Ground on Roserade for the heatrans. Roserade nearly always gets me a good start to the game.

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Swampert (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 240 HP / 214 Def / 56 Sp atk
Relaxed nature (+Def, -Speed)
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Earthquake

The First wall on my Team. As always this guy is one of my favourite walls as it is so versatile and reliable. Im using a standard set because I need a poke to set up Stealth Rock. We’re thinking about using a curse-pert but then we’d need something else to set up SR. But a curse-pert wouldn’t be too bad in this team. It makes a good Ttar and Heatran counter and can take a outrage from a Jolly DD Mence (without LO).

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Scizor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Technician
EVs: 208 HP / 96 atk / 200 Sp def / 6 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -Sp atk)
- U-turn
- Pursuit
- Super power
- Bullet Punch

A great revenge killer and ghost/latias trapper. This guy has got the Evs to survive even a HP fire from latias. This is one of the pokes that I know Schaft likes. He made the spread and set. U-turn to scout, Bullet punch to revenge kill, Pursuit to trap and guarantee a KO to for some pokes and finally super power is for the trans that switch in to OHKO max HP Blissey.
Scizor is a great pokemon to use in today’s metagame; takes care of common threats like Gengars, Latias, Celebi’s and revenge kills Mence’s after the SR damage.

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Infernape (M) @ Life orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: / 252 sp atk/ 192 Speed / 64 atk
Naive nature (+Def, -Speed)
- Close Combat
- Fire Blast
- HP Ice
- Grass Knot

Originally this was a SD ape and the team was built around this pokemon. It’s a great late game sweeper and wall breaker. It works very well with Scizor. With its Blaze ability and LO in play, this guy can deal deadly damage (alliteration ftw) with Fire Blast. I wouldn’t need too much speed since it still outruns the normal pokes it should, apart from another ape. Might even try out U-turn on this guy. Now ill need a Gyarados counter since both Scizor and infernape are countered by it.

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Salamence (M) @ Yache Berry
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: / 232 Atk/ 252 Speed / 24 Sp atk
Naive nature (+Def, -Speed)
- Dragon Dance
- Fire Blast
- Outrage
- Earthquake

The main sweeper on my team, once it gets the chance to set up , there are only a few things to stop it. Yache berry for those deadly ice type attacks. Fire blast for Skarms and Forretress’s and even some Scizors. This is another very good late game sweep, after my opponent getting weakened from Toxic spikes this guy can take full advantage and sweep the team.

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Rotom-W (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: / 252 HP / 200 Def / 50 Sp def / 8 Speed
Bold nature (+Def, -Speed)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Thunderbolt
- Shadow Ball

The teams status absorber and sleep talker. The 2nd wall on my team, and a very useful one. This guy can come into a CBScizor’s Bullet punch and wall it nicely. It serves a good counter for Metagross, Gyarados and maybe even Scizor. It also walls many pokemon including Swampert. Will-o-wisp might be considered instead of Shadow ball for those T-tars and Scizor Pursuits.

Conclusion

In conclusion this team is a fairly offensive team. It has a few weak spots that need covering but once some of those pokes are out the way, I can have an awesome sweep with Infernape or Mence.

Safe_Kid
05-03-2009, 01:00 PM
Threat List:


Tyranitar: Scizor, Swampert or Infernape

Gyarados: Rotom-W

Infernape: yacheMence (Bit weak here)

Azelf: Scizor

Electivire: Swampert

Heracross: Rotom-W

Salamence: Swampert, Scizor.

Togekiss: Rotom-W

Gengar: Scizor

Celebi: Scizor

Lucario: Salamence

Starmie: Scizor

Weavile: Scizor, infernape

Dugtrio: Scizor, Rotom-W

PorygonZ:Scizor, Infernape, Swampert

Machamp: Rotom-W

Snorlax: Infernape, Scizor

Zapdos: Swampert, Rotom-W

Suicune: Rotom, Roserade

Breloom: Rotom-W

Ninjask: Swampert, Scizor

Metagross: Swampert, Rotom-W

Heatran: Swampert

Jirachi: Swampert, Rotom-W, Infernape

Dragonite: Infernape, Salamence, Scizor, Swampert

Mamoswine: Infernape, Scizor, Swampert

Yanmega: Swampert, Scizor,

Kingdra: Roserade, Salamence, Rotom-W

Roserade: Scizor

Scizor: Swampert, infernape, Rotom-W

Aerodacty: Scizor

Abomasnow: Scizor

imported_Darkrai
05-03-2009, 01:02 PM
I'm wondering why don't you use Sassy over Relaxed on ape

Safe_Kid
05-03-2009, 01:08 PM
I'm wondering why don't you use Sassy over Relaxed on ape

Lmao, made a mistake.

Carlo1003
05-03-2009, 01:22 PM
Some people run Heatran with HP Grass.
Scarf 'Tran with HP Grass that constantly switches can easily pick this team apart.

Safe_Kid
05-03-2009, 02:37 PM
Some people run Heatran with HP Grass.
Scarf 'Tran with HP Grass that constantly switches can easily pick this team apart.

Then it would be count on my prediction. Rotom-W to take HP grass, pert for Fire blast, scizor for dragon pulse. etc.

cat
05-03-2009, 04:01 PM
Some people run Heatran with HP Grass.
Scarf 'Tran with HP Grass that constantly switches can easily pick this team apart.

not really. if tran has hp grass and he catches swampert then it was a sacrifice that will not be in vain because now there is nothing stopping sala from coming in and setting up.

Safe_Kid
05-05-2009, 06:11 PM
k guys anything else? or is that it?

ARK9
05-09-2009, 09:31 PM
Well, i'd say WoW over shadow ball is a must on Rotom, As on Salamence, may i know what ice beams you after a DD?? no one uses ice shard anymore due to the now way better bullet punch scizor. on DD salamence, i use always lonely nature with LO, and i reccomend it a lot, first off, you can go with 252/252 spread, as with LO, Fire blast OHKO's skarm. other than that, seems fine to me.

Duskie
05-15-2009, 05:44 PM
Then it would be count on my prediction. Rotom-W to take HP grass, pert for Fire blast, scizor for dragon pulse. etc.

Then you will constantly take more and more damage.And for what? it's not like you will be getting anywhere with that.Racking up residual damage on yourself consistantly.

Dimes
05-15-2009, 08:11 PM
And the point of prediction would be nothing to you.

It's scarfed, and he can switch in a Pokemon that resists, scaring it off.

joshaka1
05-17-2009, 03:59 AM
yea ur kinda ape weak =/

Zero Mugen
05-17-2009, 05:08 AM
though it's sort of rare to see, life orb or specs zam is a viable threat. if scizor faints, then your team is open to a possible zam sweep. some zams run hp ice which touches mence and rade. shadow ball naturally takes care of rotom and pert (2HKO). and ape is very fragile so it cant really absorb hits from zam. and with zam's speed, if it's timid, it can 2HKO practically everything but scizor if prediction is right. while offense isnt a problem, you may want to throw in something that can take special attacks with no problem. :)

i am cool
05-17-2009, 09:58 AM
...such as Blissey in place of Infernape or some other team member, perhaps?

Safe_Kid
05-17-2009, 10:43 AM
though it's sort of rare to see, life orb or specs zam is a viable threat. if scizor faints, then your team is open to a possible zam sweep. some zams run hp ice which touches mence and rade. shadow ball naturally takes care of rotom and pert (2HKO). and ape is very fragile so it cant really absorb hits from zam. and with zam's speed, if it's timid, it can 2HKO practically everything but scizor if prediction is right. while offense isnt a problem, you may want to throw in something that can take special attacks with no problem. :)

If its specs then i can trap it with Scizor. If its LO then max HP Scizor or Rotom can survive hits and kill it.


And the point of prediction would be nothing to you.

It's scarfed, and he can switch in a Pokemon that resists, scaring it off.

And your saying i wouldn't be able to predict the switch and deal with the poke?

My main problem is Scarftran with HP grass. Im not willing to put bliss in my team. Any other suggestions that wont ruin my team?

Dimes
05-18-2009, 08:32 PM
Safe Kid is a hacker. He has a Torrent Scizor BANBANBAN.

Also, swampert isn't the best Heatran counter. Some Tran run Hidden Power Grass> Ice just for Swampert and bulky waters, while it can also run Dragon Pulse> Explosion since no one uses it lol.

Safe_Kid
05-23-2009, 10:20 AM
Safe Kid is a hacker. He has a Torrent Scizor BANBANBAN.

Also, swampert isn't the best Heatran counter. Some Tran run Hidden Power Grass> Ice just for Swampert and bulky waters, while it can also run Dragon Pulse> Explosion since no one uses it lol.

Another typo.

And yeah if we thought of tran like that there wouldnt be any real counter for it. Your logic says any poke can be defeated by tran.

IF we all thought of it like that, what are the real tran counters? HP Dragon on latias, HP electric on Gyra, Explosion on bliss. You see what im saying? Pert is somewhat more reliable and has a role on my team.

Dimes
05-23-2009, 07:05 PM
If it explodes on Blissey then you don't have to worry about it. :p