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06-25-2009, 04:41 PM
First and foremost, this has been done by jonahrob94; one of the newest and best analysers I have laid my eyes upon! The work and improvement he did was excellent, and I would like to commend him on a great job; since he created original and viable sets no one, even I, would probably think of. Anyways, on to the corrected analysis:
Pelipper:
http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/pelipper.png
Summary:
Most Used Pelipper Set:
Due to Pelippers above average Special Defense stat, it is usually found running sets that abuse the aforementioned Special Defense stat. Some prime examples of this include: The Toxic Staller and the Sleep Talker.
Usual Counters:
Pelippers counters include anything that has Thunderbolt or Lanturn; Lanturn easily resists everything Pelipper has, except Hidden Power Grass, and can retaliate in an appropriate way.
Types of Teams Pelipper Is Used On:
Pelipper, a mediocre Pokémon, is usually found on teams that are of low capabilities. This is to say that youll find Pelipper on fun teams or teams that are composed of stalling Pokémon.
In Depth:
http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_pelipper.gifToxic Staller@ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
Nature: Calm (+SpD, -Atk) Or Bold (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
- Roost
- Aqua Ring / Stockpile
- Toxic
- Air Slash / Surf
Since Pelliper has decent Defenses and a great typing combination, it makes a good tank. And fortunately, in its very limited movepool it is provided with a reliable recovery move; and another amazing move, exclusive to only a few Water-types, called Aqua Ring. All you really have to do with this set is Poison the opponent with Toxic and continue to stall.
Surf provides Pelipper with a way of defeating Fire-types, who would otherwise defeat him if he is running Air Slash. However, Air Slash presents Pelipper with the power of destroying Grass and Fighting-types; especially Pokémon such as Bellossom, Vileplume, Toxicroak, and Poliwrath. Either way, both of these moves will leave you walled by Lanturna Pokémon you should avoid at all costs.
http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_pelipper.gifSleep Talker@ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
- Air Slash
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
This is a bit gimmicky, but it could work in the right situation. You can use Hydro Pump over Surf if youre willing to risk Hydro Pump missing. Basic strategy here, you just attack and when health gets low you Rest. While youre asleep you Sleep Talk until youre awake. Just keep recycling this until you die.
http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_pelipper.gifChoice Sweeper@ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
Ability: Keen Eye
Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Air Slash
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power Grass
- Ice Beam / Blizzard
In this set, any of the two Items you chose will strike you with a problem. Pelipper is either too slow to outspeed the opponent, or too weak to do significant damage to the opponent. However, Pelipper has Air Slash and Surf as his powerful STAB moves. You can use Hydro Pump over Surf if you want more damage, and are willing to risk missing.
You need Hidden Power Grass because without it, Lanturn, the best Pelipper counter, can destroy you. The last move is Ice Beam, which is for type coverage, and again you can use Blizzard if youre willing to risk missing.
http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_pelipper.gifRain Support@ Damp Rock
Ability: Keen Eye
Nature: Calm (+SpD, -Atk) Or Bold (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 Spe
- Icy Wind
- Rain Dance
- Tailwind
- Toxic / Surf / Air Slash
A basic support set based around Speed. Use Rain Dance on the first turn, followed by Toxic or Icy Wind on the second. Then, the stalling parade begins! When you know youre going to get knocked out, use Tailwind to give your switch-in a Speed boost. Icy Wind can lower the foes Speed, causing them to switch. In that slot, you can also use Surf or Air Slash if you would like a powerful STAB move.
Other Options:
Despite Pelipper having a much wider Physical movepool than Special; you just cant use a Physical set because Pelippers Attack is so low.
However, Pelipper is presented with other moves to mess around with; these include:
Knock Off - to annoy and get rid of Pokémon who rely on their Item.
Stockpile Not enough attention was brought to this move which can really help you when youre stalling.
Opinion:
Pelipper isnt great, but when used right and in the correct situation, it can make a good wall in the UU metagame; but its 4x weakness to Thunderbolt hinders its walling capabilities. All in all Pelipper is a decent wall, but there are many better Pokémon to fill its spot.
Pelipper:
http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/pelipper.png
Summary:
Most Used Pelipper Set:
Due to Pelippers above average Special Defense stat, it is usually found running sets that abuse the aforementioned Special Defense stat. Some prime examples of this include: The Toxic Staller and the Sleep Talker.
Usual Counters:
Pelippers counters include anything that has Thunderbolt or Lanturn; Lanturn easily resists everything Pelipper has, except Hidden Power Grass, and can retaliate in an appropriate way.
Types of Teams Pelipper Is Used On:
Pelipper, a mediocre Pokémon, is usually found on teams that are of low capabilities. This is to say that youll find Pelipper on fun teams or teams that are composed of stalling Pokémon.
In Depth:
http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_pelipper.gifToxic Staller@ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
Nature: Calm (+SpD, -Atk) Or Bold (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
- Roost
- Aqua Ring / Stockpile
- Toxic
- Air Slash / Surf
Since Pelliper has decent Defenses and a great typing combination, it makes a good tank. And fortunately, in its very limited movepool it is provided with a reliable recovery move; and another amazing move, exclusive to only a few Water-types, called Aqua Ring. All you really have to do with this set is Poison the opponent with Toxic and continue to stall.
Surf provides Pelipper with a way of defeating Fire-types, who would otherwise defeat him if he is running Air Slash. However, Air Slash presents Pelipper with the power of destroying Grass and Fighting-types; especially Pokémon such as Bellossom, Vileplume, Toxicroak, and Poliwrath. Either way, both of these moves will leave you walled by Lanturna Pokémon you should avoid at all costs.
http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_pelipper.gifSleep Talker@ Leftovers
Ability: Keen Eye
Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
- Air Slash
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
This is a bit gimmicky, but it could work in the right situation. You can use Hydro Pump over Surf if youre willing to risk Hydro Pump missing. Basic strategy here, you just attack and when health gets low you Rest. While youre asleep you Sleep Talk until youre awake. Just keep recycling this until you die.
http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_pelipper.gifChoice Sweeper@ Choice Specs / Choice Scarf
Ability: Keen Eye
Nature: Modest (+SpA, -Atk)
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
- Air Slash
- Surf / Hydro Pump
- Hidden Power Grass
- Ice Beam / Blizzard
In this set, any of the two Items you chose will strike you with a problem. Pelipper is either too slow to outspeed the opponent, or too weak to do significant damage to the opponent. However, Pelipper has Air Slash and Surf as his powerful STAB moves. You can use Hydro Pump over Surf if you want more damage, and are willing to risk missing.
You need Hidden Power Grass because without it, Lanturn, the best Pelipper counter, can destroy you. The last move is Ice Beam, which is for type coverage, and again you can use Blizzard if youre willing to risk missing.
http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_pelipper.gifRain Support@ Damp Rock
Ability: Keen Eye
Nature: Calm (+SpD, -Atk) Or Bold (+Def, -Atk)
EVs: 252 HP / 6 Def / 252 Spe
- Icy Wind
- Rain Dance
- Tailwind
- Toxic / Surf / Air Slash
A basic support set based around Speed. Use Rain Dance on the first turn, followed by Toxic or Icy Wind on the second. Then, the stalling parade begins! When you know youre going to get knocked out, use Tailwind to give your switch-in a Speed boost. Icy Wind can lower the foes Speed, causing them to switch. In that slot, you can also use Surf or Air Slash if you would like a powerful STAB move.
Other Options:
Despite Pelipper having a much wider Physical movepool than Special; you just cant use a Physical set because Pelippers Attack is so low.
However, Pelipper is presented with other moves to mess around with; these include:
Knock Off - to annoy and get rid of Pokémon who rely on their Item.
Stockpile Not enough attention was brought to this move which can really help you when youre stalling.
Opinion:
Pelipper isnt great, but when used right and in the correct situation, it can make a good wall in the UU metagame; but its 4x weakness to Thunderbolt hinders its walling capabilities. All in all Pelipper is a decent wall, but there are many better Pokémon to fill its spot.