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[Screaming Angel]

This team is an offensive team I used on the ladder for Smogon and Team Uber. In both ladders it brought me pretty high. It bases around using Stathakis suicidal offensive. For example, Scizor attracts Zapdos. Lucario is countered by Zapdos so if I have both and one weakens Zapdos the other has a good chance of sweeping. This team has pretty good synergy covering every Type at least once and most types twice. (Except Rock and Water) This team has passed its moment and I made a new one so here it is for your pleasure.
The Line Up:

http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_azelf.gif http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_tyranitar.gif http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_rotom.gifhttp://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_latias.gif http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_scizor.gif http://www.pokesho.com/img_icon_us/i_lucario.gif

The Lead:


http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/azelf.png


Azelf @ Light Clay http://veekun.com/dex-images/items/light-clay.png
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Explosion/ U-Turn
- Stealth Rock
- Reflect
- Light Screen

Explanation: Azelf is my suicide lead that starts my momentum. Stealth Rock is to give my sweepers an easier time sweeping and for oponents who like switching. Reflect and Light Screen are so that my pokemon can set up and so they can liive longer. U-Turn allows me to get out and bring in a sweeper when my oponent is expecting an explosion. It also helps against Aerodactyl leads by breaking their sash then sswitching to Scizor to KO them with Bullet Punch . The Evs are straight forward from the analysis providing Azelf with more durability so it can set up the screens.There are only two leads which give me alot of trouble Choice Scarf Jirachi and LO Starmie. Against Jirachi I Stealth Rock since Iron Head is only a 3KO. Starmie is a coin toss to see if I get Light Screen up before she hits me with a LO STAB Hydro Pump.

Immunes/Resistances: Fighting,Ground,Psychic
Weak to: Dark,Ghost,Bug

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/tyranitar.png


Tyranitar (M) @ Babiri Berry http://veekun.com/dex-images/items/babiri-berry.png
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Crunch

Explanation: This is the first pokemon I bring out after the Azelf was killed. Tyranitar helps wear down Hippodown,Swampert so that Rotom-w can finish them with a Hydro Pump and Shadow Ball accordingly and procede to sweep. Even though everyone knows that DDTyranitar's now carry Babiri Berry Scizors come in flying when I'm at 60% hoping for the KO. Evs are for maximum speed so I can reach Base 115 pokemon like Starmie and Azelf after a Dragon Dance and proceed to KO them. Earthquake was chosen over the recommended Fire Punch in the analysis because Stone Edge sometimes KOes Scizor, and I would rather be able to hit Metagross and Jirachi hard. Aqua Tail over Earthquake is an option to be able to hit Gliscor and Hippodown harder.

Immunes/Resistances: Dark,Ghost,Fire,Normal,Poison,Psychic,Flying
Weak to: Bug,Fighting,Grass,Water,Steel,Ground

http://arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/rotomwash.png


Rotom-w @ Leftovers http://veekun.com/dex-images/items/leftovers.png
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 64 HP/212 Spd/232 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Charge Beam
- Substitute
- Hydro Pump
- Shadow Ball

Explanation: Rotom-w provides me with the valuable Fighting immune and Ground immune as well as being able to set up on Scizor. The evs in speed are so that I can outspeed Adamant Lucario and be able to KO it after the Close Combat Sp. Def. drop. 64 HP evs allow me to set up substitutes against Blissey which she cannot break with Ice Beam or Flamethrower. Hydro Pump hits Tyranitar and Heatran for Super efictive damage while only having 20 less base power against Blissey and Snorlax. It is also my best bet against scizor.. Shadow Ball is there for STAB and also to get rid or Swampert who can roar away my boosts and substitutes. Rotom-w attracts special walls that allow to Lucario and Scizor to set up.

Immunes/Resistances:Normal,Fighting,Poison,Electric,Flying ,Bug,Steel,
Ground
Weak to: Ghost,Dark

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/latias.png


Latias (F) @ Life Orb http://veekun.com/dex-images/items/life-orb.png
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 156 HP/252 SpA/ 100 Spe
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Recover
- Psycho Shift

Explanation: Latias provides me with a way to cover my Starmie weakness seeing as she can't be OHKOed by Ice beam. Speed EVs let me outspeed max speed adamant Lucario. Modest and a Life Orb allow me to 2KO most Scizors and Tyranitars with Surf + Surf and Surf + Draco Meteor respectevely. Max Special Attack allows me to 2KO them. The rest of the EVs were placed on HP for bulkyness. Psycho Shift is for absoribing nasty status such as Posion, Burn, and paralysis and reflecting them back at the oponent. It should be noted that with Psycho Shift Latias stands a chance at stalling out blissey as long as she doesn't switch. Dragon + Water hits everything in the OU metagame for neutral damage except Empoleon. Recover is for recovering off damage.

Immunes/Resistances: Ground,Water,Electric,Fire,Grass,Psychic,Fighting
Weak to: Bug,Dark,Ghost,Dragon,Ice

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/Scizor.png


Scizor (M) @ Life Orb http://veekun.com/dex-images/items/life-orb.png
Ability: Technician
EVs: 200 HP/252 Atk/56 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Superpower
- Bullet Punch
- Quick Attack

Explanation: Scizor is one of my favorite pokemon having a great amount of destructive power behind him. Evs are so that I dont get hit too hard by Special Attacks while still mantaning a good amount of power. HP evs also produce a Life Orb number. Superpower was chosen over Brick Break so that I can cause alot of damage to oposing Skarmory before he roars me away. Quick Attack was chosen over X-Scissor so that I can get rid of pesky Starmies at ~70% and Infernapes who think they can get rid of me since they resist Steel. The only time where I wish I had X-Scissor was an oposing Vaporeon. This guy opens sweeps for Latias and helps Lucario sweep by doing around 40% to Defensive Zapdos and around 70% to offensive Zapdos making a Lucario sweep more possible.

Immunes/Resistances:Normal,Ghost,Dark,Dragon,Grass,Ice,Psy chic,Bug,Steel
Weak to: Fire

http://www.arkeis.com/images/pokemonfactory/Lucario.png


Lucario (M) @ Life Orb http://veekun.com/dex-images/items/life-orb.png
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Crunch
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed

Explanation: Lucario gives me that power I need to break through walls. EVs are from the analysis. Move set is pretty original as you can see. Lucario is what gets my team going giving each team member oportunities to set up against his counters. Lucario more often than not might be revenge killed by a Scarf Heatran, Scarf Magnezone or Scarf Rotom-h. Tyranitar sets up on all three of them. Gyarados gets weaken to the point where Scizor would sweep, and Salamence gets almost killed with SR making it not stick around to deal damage.

Immunes/Resistances: Rock,Dark,Ghost,Dragon,Steel,Ice,Bug,Grass,Normal
Weak to: Fire,Ground,Fighting


Rate,Hate,Steal.

[Screaming Angel]

Threat List:
Threat List
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* Green means they are not a problem for me.
* Orange means they can cause a bit of trouble.
* Red means they are very difficult to take down.

Offensive Threats:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani142.gif Aerodactyl : Most Aerodactyls are leads in that case I U-turn out to Scizor then kill it with Bullet Punch.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani065.gif Alakazam : Can't really cause problems, Scizor can set up on him then finish it with Bullet Punch.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani482.gif Azelf : Same boat as Aerodactyl, only that he is more common as a lead, non lead versions fall to Lucario once boosted.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani286.gif Breloom : Can be annoying if for some reason Rotom-w is dead. Scizor kills it with Bullet Punch, Latias with Draco Metero not really a problem.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani149.gif Dragonite : Mix sets as well as every other set do not do much, Latias outspeeds and finishes him off with a Draco Meteor.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani051.gifDugtrio : Can only trap and succesfully deal with Tyranitar, Scizor kills it with Bullet Punch, Latias with Draco Meteor, Rotom-w sets up on it.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani466.gif Electivire : Can't deal alot of damage to this team, Latias kills with Draco Meteor, Scizor sets up on non Flamethrower versions, and Rotom-w 2KOes with Shadow Ball.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani395.gif Empoleon : Empoleon can only really set up on Rotom-w or Latias. If it sets up on Rotom-w birng it down to 22% then switch out to Latias to take the surf, then switch out to Lucario to take the Ice Beam and finish it off with Extremespeed.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani330.gif Flygon : Can be annoying if the user predicts well, I finish them off with Bullet Punch on Scizor when they are locked in to Outrage.
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http://pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani094.gif Gengar : Scizor takes care of them, if Scizor is dead I have a hard time dealing with it, Latias doesn't get KOed by Shadow Ball and can KO with Draco Meteor.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani130.gif Gyarados : Offensive LODDGyarados is easi to handle seeing as it can only set up on Lucario and Scizor. If Lucario has a SD I attack with Close Combat then Extremespeed it for the KO. Scizor's Quick Attack does 40% damage plus Stealth Rock means it gets 2KOed.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani485.gif Heatran : Latias Surfs it, Tyranitar sets up on it.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani214.gif Heracross : Rotom-w sets up on it. If its CB and its locked into Megahorn one of my Steels sets up on it.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani392.gif Infernape : Latias surfs it, Lucario Extremespeeds it, Scizor Quick Attacks it.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani385.gif Jirachi : Lead Jirachi is a pain, CMSub Jirachi doesnt deal enough damage to Lucario or Scizor who Close Combat and Superpower it respectively.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani135.gif Jolteon : If its Spec'ed I play around my resistances but if its LOCharge Beam I wear it down enough to the point wehre Extremespeed or Quick Attack will kill.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani230.gif Kingdra : Can't set up at all and if it does I make it lock itself into outrage then Switch to Scizor and Swords Dance then finish it off with Quick Attack.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani380.gif Latias : Scizor can set up on non HP fire ones Rotom-w can survive a Dragon Pulse and deal enough damage with Shadow Ball to the point where Scior or Lucario can kill it. Tyranitar Crunches it to hell
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani448.gif Lucario : Can'tset up, and if it does Rotom-w kills it after a Sp. Defense drop with Hydro Pump.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani068.gif Machamp : Rotom-w takes the Dynamic Punches and wears it down so Lucario can kill with Close Combat.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani462.gif Magnezone : Scarf Magnezone can kill Scizor but that leaves him open to set up my Tyranitar. Can't kill Lucario with Thunderbolt unless I had a Specia Defense drop. Latias can surf it.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani473.gif Mamoswine : A Bullet Punch from Scizor finishes him, Latias KOes with surf and can't be KOed unless its under 70% health. Rotom-w kills it with Hydro Pump.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani376.gif Metagross : If Rotom-w is weakened thsi might be a problem otherwise Rotom-w sets up on it. Tyranitar can take a hit with Babiri Berry and use Earthquake.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani474.gif Porygon-Z : Most Porygon-z do Tri Attack letting Tyranitar,Lucario,Scizor and Rotom-w set up.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani464.gif Rhyperior : Can't set up and if it does Rotom-w can deal alot of damage with Hydro Pump, Latias can surf it, Lucario Close Combat and Scizor Bullet Punch.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani373.gif Salamence : Mixmence is a heck to this team if I didnt get Stealth Rock up. If I did then I let it weakend itself by sandstorm and switching until Scizor's Bullet Punch kills. Dragon Dance variants are easier to deal since they often carry Outrage Making them Set up Fodder for Scizor.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani212.gif Scizor : Rotom-w sets up on it, Tyranitar after a Dragon Dance can KO it with Stone Edge, Set up fodder for my own Scizor.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani121.gif Starmie : Starmie wrecks my team if Latias is weakened, the best I can do is hit it with priority moves.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani468.gif Togekiss : Latias can come in on T-wave and reflect it back with Psycho Shift, Rotom-w can set up on it if it doesn't know i carry Substitute.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani248.gif Tyranitar : Latias can kill it by using surf then draco meteor, CB versions can be set up on by Lucario. Rotom-w can use Hydro Pump for decent damage.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani461.gif Weavile : Scizor sets up on it and finishes it off with Bullet Punch.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani469.gif Yanmega : Rotom-w can set up on it if it doesnt carry Hypnosis otherwise Priority move should kill it.

Defensive Threat List:

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani242.gif Blissey : Lucario,Tyranitar, Scizor can all deal massive damage and set up on it if it doesnt carry T-wave. If she does then Rotom-w can set up on it and wait for a Lucky crit.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani437.gif Bronzong : Scizor and Rotom-w both set up on it.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani251.gif Celebi : Latias Draco Meteor is it, Rotom-w can set up on it.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani488.gif Cresselia : Rotom-w can set up on it, if Rotom is dead she can be annoying.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani232.gif Donphan : Latias can use Surf, Rotom-w can Hydro Pump it.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani205.gif Forretress : Rotom-w sets up on it and so does Scizor.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani472.gif Gliscor : Latias can surf it, Rotom-w can substitute then Hydro Pump it, Scizor can 2KO it after a Swords Dance.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani450.gif Hippowdon : Latias can surf it and Rotom-w can Hydro Pump it but its rathe annoying because it can roar away my stats boost.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani227.gif Skarmory : Rotom-w scares it to go to Blissey, Lucario after a Swords Dance can kill it, Superpower from Scizor after a Swords Dance does around 70% damage.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani143.gif Snorlax : If it gets too many Curses then I have a problem, I usually hit it hard until it has to rest then Swords Dance with Lucario until CLose Combat kills.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani245.gif Suicune: After Latias uses Draco Meteor she sets up. Lucario does alot of damage to it, and Tyranitar can use crunch to lower here defenses CroCune is extremly annoying.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani260.gif Swampert : Latias Draco Meteor is, Lucario after a Swords Dance finishes him.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani073.gif Tentacruel : Lucario can set up on it since surf does pitiful damage, Scizor can too and so can Tyranitar.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani134.gif Vaporeon :Lucario can finish it off with a Swords Dance Close Combat while only taking 40% from surf.
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http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites/dpiconani/dpiconani145.gif Zapdos : Tyranitar can set up on it and Latias deals alot of damage with Draco meteor.

[Milos]

Hey Screaming Angel, nice team you've got here. I haven't faced it myself but I run an offensive minded team like yours so I think I could help.

First of all, your Latias spread doesn't seem right on a team like this. Its basically Pursuit bait for Tyranitar or Scizor, seeing as after Latias uses Draco Meteor, Surf won't be hurting them much at all. Your Speed EVs also mean that you'll be losing out against other Latias, and even worse, Salamence. If you're going to be offensive I recommend you use 4 HP/ 252 SpA/ 252 Spe Timid Draco Meteor/ Surf/ Recover/ Thunderbolt. With this spread you always outrun Mence no matter what, and it also makes a nice check to Gyarados, seeing as how a +1 Life Orb Stone Edge does about ~74% max.

Now to me, it seems that some threats such as Starmie and Latias are hard to handle by your team. You stated in your threat list that in order to kill Latias you had to wear it down with Rotom-W with Shadow Ball, but Dragon Pulse will still be taking a chunk of damage that Rotom needs for its Substitutes. There is one simple solution to both your Starmie and Latias problems. Slapping a Choice Band onto Scizor while keeping those EVs will let it survive anything those two threats have to throw at it, and then Scizor can Pursuit and KO both of them.

Also, you might want to run the standard Azelf lead with Fire Blast/ Stealth Rock/ Psychic/ Explosion Naive 54 Atk/ 200 SpA/ 252 Spe.

Hope I helped.

[Screaming Angel]

Well thanks Milos, Your rate was helpfull. I have been wanting to change my Latias set but I dont know if running a plain 252/252 set would help. If Latias becomes Pursuit bait it means Scizor or Lucario get to set up. Surf + Surf kills Scizor after Stealth Rock and Surf + Draco Meteor kills Tyranitar. Which calculator did you use? Your calcs seem a bit off target.A +1 Jolly Gyarados with Stone Edge does 74.83% - 88.08% and if it is Adamant it does 82.12% - 96.69%. That same Adamant Gyarados does 72.94% - 85.88% and the Jolly one does 66.47% - 78.24% to my spread. If I run the simple spread I have ~ 50% chance of being KOed after Stealth Rock by an Adamant +1 LOGyarado's Stone Edge. And I rather not take that chance. By not running the standard lead Metagross fails to do his job as an anti-lead just like many other leads. People will make mindless switches expecting Explosion which mean Stealth Rock hampers their ability to come in.

There are various things I have considered over Tyranitar. Gyarados or Mence seem like they would fit over him, seeing as they provide almost the same resistances Tyranitar sets up. Any help on that?

[Milos]

Well Screaming Angel, I don't think anyone runs Adamant Gyara anymore. Simply because if its Adamant, then it can't outspeed Jolt after a DD, which will easily KO. Since most Gyarados are not Adamant, not many players will keep their Gyarados in against Latias, for the fear of Scarf Thunderbolt or simply because they know they won't be able to kill it. Now let's say you bring your Latias out against Gyara as they DD. They switch to something to absorb the Thunderbolt. What has monstrous Special Defense and resists Electric? Latias. And since your own Latias doesn't run max Speed, they will always KO yours with Dragon Pulse. (Of course, changing your Scizor to a CB version would trap and kill Latias afterwards.)

As for the calcs I posted, I didn't actually run any real calcs, I just posted an assumption from experience. That was my fault.

I simply suggested my Azelf lead because it gets the ball rolling much quicker, but I see the reasoning behind yours so theres no reason to change it.

Now I would consider using Kingdra in place of Tyranitar. Simple reason is because Gyarados and Salamence take too much from Stealth Rock and that hampers their sweep. As mentioned in most RMT's, every team is Kingdra weak. I would recommend 252 Atk/ 252 Spe/ 4 HP Swift Swim Lum Berry Substitute/ Dragon Dance/ Waterfall/ Outrage. Let any Pokemon give you some status, sub, and then DD up for victory. If your Lum Berry hasn't been wasted, it's even better, because now people can't simply "stall" out your Outrages. One of the best mid to late game sweepers i've ever used.

Once again, hope I helped.

[Screaming Angel]

I have to definatly try out Kingdra I had obviously fogotten about him. It seems like Kingdra would do an excellent job with the screen on and also giving me that x4 Water and Fire resist. Now right know after a Gyarados Dragon Dances I Draco Meteor and if that Latias show up she will be toasted. I do agree on the Latias set change but I still disagree on that it should be a simple 252/252 Changed, Yes that lets me speed tie with Latias but my team can handle Latias unless its Spec'ed it can't 2KO Scizor unless it has HP Fire. Scizor's Bullet Punch KOes after an SD.

[Tony32]

Just one qustion SA.....Cat was Testing out your team against Lunar And it was 1-1 Cat sent out latias and Lunar had a Infernape...And His Infernape wasnt scarfed And it outsped The latias with HP:Ice to OHKO it. So how does it outspeed infernape without 252 Speed Max?.

Overall i give this team a 9.5/10.

[Milos]

If you read the RMT it shows that his Latias only runs 100 Speed.

[Tony32]

But why when an infernape can come in and kill it?

[cat]

What's with all this talk about substitue? I don't see why you would use three turns to set up light screen, reflect, and SR and then take another turn to u-turn out or explode just to use sub and have it be broken the same turn. If you would use the screens and set up SR that would give you 4-5 turns with double defs. Since you would have these double defs then the main purpose of substitute becomes null. Seriously, keep tar, he's the pokemon who can benifit from those double defs. the most.

In your first post you said you wanted to make your teams by stathakis' methods, but last time I checked tanks and sub pokemon don't work well to that goal at all. You're going to to want to be able to inflict as much damage as you can before your screens run out, then work from there picking at your opponents defenses until it's time for Lucario to sweep. This means you're going to need to put constant pressure on your opponent, and with things like recover/psyco shift latias and sub charge beam rotom you're giving your opponent a big chance to gain back some of the ground you took and possibly even get the upper hand.

Milos' latias set looks good, besides recover, but I guess the only thing you could really put in place would be dragon pulse but I don't know how much use you're going to get out of that. Scarfing rotom and putting trick over sub will bring this team some much needed speed and a will give it that extra advantage over stall ( which with your current team hippowdon, bliss, gyarados wall you to no end.) there is a similar problem with glicsor as only your special attacking pokemon can hit him and if you pair him up with bliss it can become a real problem for your pokemon to take down. Because of this I would prefer to aqua tail over earthquake on tyranitar since behind screens and a baribi berry tyranitar can easily take their attack and 2hko with crunch.

Looking back at this, I can see my rate went in the opposite direction than Milos' wherein Milos is trying for a more bulky offence and I am going for hyper offence. Oh well, I guess it just depends on what you're more comfortable playing.

[Infiltrator]

This is not really rating your team but here's Rotom - W sprite ^_^ http://www.dragonflycave.com/plsprites-frame1/479water.png

Now, here's the part that can help your team, first of any DDGyara set can do a number to this team, considering it can come in on either Scizor or Lucario and set up DD while lowering they're attack with intimidate, although you mentioned you could take it down easily.

Ok, what about Heatran ? You said you said that can take it down with surf, but what about Sub Heatran with Toxic or WoW... I'll have more input later. ...

[Screaming Angel]

Well, thats why I have Psycho Shift, since Heatran is immune to toxic all Psycho shift does is remove the status. Thanks for the sprites. and it cant set up a Dragon Dance on either Scizor or Lucario if stealth rock seeing as a +1 Extremespeed from Lucario 2KOes and a Quick Attack from +1 Scizor also 2KOes