Uber threats WIP

[Dimes]

Special thanks to Blue Blur, Iris and others for editing for grammar checks. (You know who you are)

Rayquaza used Outrage!
It's Super Effective!
Foe Kyogre lost 100% of its health!
Foe Kyogre Fainted!
Rain continues to Fail!

Introduction:

Welcome to the world of uber play. This is basicly where the Titans of Pokemon are used in battle. The uber tier is basically a group of Pokemon that are so overpowered, they had to be banned from standard play. Want to use the best of the best? Your wifi team consists of Darkrai/Mewtwo/Groudon/Rayquaza/Wobbufett/Dialga? The uber tier is right for you then.

The Ubers:

The uber tier is the tier where the Pokemon that are TOO good go. Pokemon with stellar stats such as the likes of Mewtwo and Deoxys. Because people wanted to still use them, these Pokemon were made into a separate tier, called THE UBER TIER, for play against each other. Remember though, just because a Pokemon is a Legendary, doesn't mean it is great.
These Pokemon are uber:

Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys (All formes)
Dialga
Garchomp
Giratina (All formes)
Groudon
Ho-oh
Kyogre
Latias (With Soul Dew)
Latios (With and without Soul Dew)
Lugia
Mew
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Shaymin-S
Wobbufett
Wynaut

What makes something Uber?

The only way a Pokemon can be banned is if it overcentralises the game. Say, if Rayquaza was OU, it would force everyone to use Scarf Ice Shard Weavile to beat DD Rayquaza. Or when Wobbufett was OU, it made everyone use powerful Mixed Sweepers. A OU Pokemon should be counterable, an Uber Pokemon doesn't have to.

What is ubers based around?

First of all, the uber tier is based on a few things. High Damage and Low Damage Second, when making an uber team, or when battling, two forms of weather must be considered. Rain and Sun. These are the bases of most successful Uber teams. Why? High Damage and Low Damage. Why? Because in ubers, Pokemon are deadly fast, and in most cases, you have to live in order to stay ahead in the game. You have to be able to resist some types and be able to switch into them. You have to be ready for any powerful threat. Of course, another thing is prediction. In ubers, you have to face heavy hitters like Dialga and Mewtwo. Try to take advantage of the moves that they use to get a counter in.



The common team are going to be teams like the ones that are successful. They have to be able to do well in weather. If you don't know why Rain and Sun are so common, it is because of Kyogre and Groudon. In Rain, Kyogre's STAB Water Spout reaches supernatural levels, great enough to dent even the sturdiest of walls. Sun is like the younger brother of Rain. It boosts Fire Attacks like Rain boosts Water, and Sun gives a resist to Water like Rain and Fire. Because Groudon doesn't have an attack that does a bunch of damage while being boosted by Sun, it is stuck with the puny Fire Punch. If in most cases it switches out to support another Pokemon with Sun, Kyogre can come in easily and rain on you parade. (puns ftl D=) So Sun isn't as common as Rain because of this flaw.

Main Threats

The Main threats in Ubers are these.

Kyogre:@ Choice Specs/ Scarf
Timid Nature/ Modest Nature
252 Spatt, 252 Spd, 6 hp
-Water Spout
-Thunder
-Ice Beam
-Surf/ Hydro Pump

The reason why Rain is so popular. Kyogre has a STAB Water Spout that is boosted by Rain and a CHoice Specs, off of a huge 150 base Special Attack. This is easily the strongest move in the entire game. But with a Choice Scarf, it becomes a faster threat, losing some power but still being the beast that it is. Don't be fooled though, some Kyogre run the rare Calm Mind set too, although those are usually shrugged off by Psych Up Blissey. Kyogre's best mates are ones that enjoy the Rain. Some of which include Manaphy, Palkia, Garchomp, Scizor, Forretress and Metagross.

Darkrai:@ Life Orb
252 Spatt, 252 Spd, 6 Def
Timid Nature
-Dark Pulse
-Dark Void
-Nasty Plot
-Focus Blast

Having access to a 80% Accurate sleeping move, a STAB move that hits half of the game for super effective, the second best coverage in the game and having it boosted by Nasty Plot, Darkrai is one of the biggest threats, maybe second to only Kyogre. Don't think that you can outspeed it easily though, because it also has a base 125 speed. There's rarely anything faster than that, and anything else faster than it is outsped if Darkrai has a Choice Scarf, trading power for Speed and gaining Trick to play with Sleep Talkers. The best Pokemon to pair up with Darkrai are ones that can take any faster hits, and take priority moves. Pokemon like Forretress, Dialga and Metagross.

Rayquaza:@ Life Orb
252 Att, 252 Spd, 6 hp
Adamant/ Jolly Nature
-Outrage/Dragon Claw
-Earthquake
-Extremespeed/Overheat
-Dragon Dance/Swords Dance


Alright, now imagine that you mixed Salamence's cool stats with Dragonight's Extremespeed and Tyranitar's greeness, you'd get Rayquaza. This little bugger is usually the bane of teams then not prepared for, and it should always be checked early. If it is SD, then you can try to predict around your opponent. (ex. Send in faster sweeper, predict Extremespeed, go to Giratina and switch to Steel Type to take Outrage) this is by far the easiest way to beat and SD Rayquaza. But be careful, some tricky players may use Dragon Claw to beat your prediction skills. The best teammates for Rayquaza are ones that force switches into something that fears Rayquaza. Such as Wobbufett, Latios, Magnezone, Scizor and Palkia. Salamence is also used because some players claim that together, they practicly break the species clause.

Palkia:@ Life Orb/Choice Scarf
Timid/Hasty Nature
252 Spatt, 252 spd, 6 spdef
- Hydro Pump
- Spacial Rend
- Thunder
- Flamethrower/ Focus Punch

Wait, what? A Pokemon with Surf and Flamethrower? There are some teams which utilise both Sun and Rain and still be effective. Most of these teams use Pokemon like Palkia who run Fire and Water moves, depending on the different situations. Palkia is a solid sweeper though, and is still on eof the bigest threats. Having a 4x Water Resist and STAB Water Attacks of its own, Palkia proves to be both the friend and bane of Rain Dance teams. The best teammates for Palkia are Manaphy, Kyogre, Garchomp, Metagross and Scizor.

Dialga:@Expert Belt/ Life Orb
120 Hp, 136 att, 252Spatt
Quiet Nature
-Draco Meteor
-Fire Blast/Earth Power
-Brick Break
-Thunder/ Stealth Rock

Another heavy hitter that can perform well in any weather, Dialga is one of the greatest threats out there. A STAB Draco Meteor or LO Fire Flast will dent most things in the metagame. But just because it is a special sweeper doesn't mean that Blissey will wall it. Brick Break is a definate 2HKO. Kyogre isn't safe either, as with LO, Thunder OHKOs. The best bet is to predict around it. Dialga's best teammates include Arceus, Wobbufett, Lugia, Rayquaza and Kyogre.

Arceus:@ Life Orb/Silk Scarf
252 Hp, 252 Att, 6 spd
Adamant Nature
-Swords Dance
-Extremespeed
-Earthquake
-Shadow Claw/Overheat

Extremekiller Arceus, maybe the most powerful threat in ubers when it gets to set up. Being able to OHKO Latias, Palkia and Darkrai alone is an amazing feat, while Dialga, Metagross and Tyranitar must eat an Earthquake in the face. Most people run Life Orb to OHKO Mewtwo with Extremespeed and 2HKO Giratina, but makes Arceus easier to take down with Toxic Spikes. The easiest way to beat Arceus is to keep switching. Giratina-O is a notable choice to bring in, as it has an immunity to 2 of Arceus' moves, while you can bring in Forretress to take the Shadow Claw. Skarmory is also a great choice, but you need to watch for Overheat. Darkrai, Palkia and Forretress are good choices for Arceus.


Mewtwo:@Leftovers
6 hp, 252 spatt, 252 spd
Timid
-Taunt
-Calm Mind
-Shadow Ball/Psychic
-Aura Sphere/Ice Beam

Taunt CM Mewtwo is another huge and common threat. With inbeatable coverage that hits Pokemon for neutral backed up by a monster of a Special Attack stat, anyone can see why. After a few Calm Minds, Mewtwo will be able to 2HKO Blissey with Aura Sphere, but it basicly comes down to prediction. A normal player will Calm Mind up and then Taunt Blissey, making it unable to Softboiled off damage. Because of this, Snatch or Psych Up Blissey is one of your best bets, backed up by Toxic Spikes. And if you suspect a Taunt, then you can Seismic Toss. Alternitavely, a Scarfed Pokemon will be able to hurt Mewtwo easily, such as Choice Scarf Groudon and Kyogre. Mewtwo and Skarmory are great Pokemon to team up together.


Wobbufett:@ Leftovers
28 Hp, 228 def, 252 spdef
Calm/ Bold Nature
-Encore
-Counter
-Mirror Coat
-Tickle

The uber with the least moves. Why is it uber? Because it is uncounterable, bulky, and almost guaranteed to kill atleast one Pokemon. A good Wobbufett player is good at prediction. If the attack is going to 2hko, then they will hit back, and almost always kill the opponent. There's almost nothing that can beat a Wobbufett easily, but Toxic Spikes is the easiest way. Sadly, you won't be really able to set up if it comes in, so you should Payback. Safeguard though, will protect teamates from the Spikes. D: Wobbufett is maybe one of the most deadly threats in the game, and you have to be prepared for it. Metagross, Rayquaza, Kyogre and Groudon are all good choices to pair up with Wobbufett.


Groudon:@ Life Orb
Adamant nature
116 hp, 252 Att, 8 def, 136 Spd
-Rock Polish
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Dragon Claw/Swords Dance

Rock Polish Groudon is one of the fastest threats out there, having a Base 90 speed. This is the most efective ev spread used, but some people run 42/252/216 with a Jolly nature to beat revenge killers such as Scarf Shaymin-S, but at the same time, Groudon loses those vital KO percentages. The easiest way to beat most Rock Polish Groudon is to have Toxic Spikes up, and to bring in a revenge killer such as Scarf Shaymin-S or Scarf Mewtwo. Also, Cresselia or Skarmory may come in to wall Groudon. However, Skarmory must watch for any Fire Attacks, such as Overheat. Ho-oh and Metagross work great with Groudon.

Lugia:@Leftovers
252 hp, 64 def, 192 spd
Timid Nature
-Roost
-Whirlwind
-Ice Beam/Reflect
-Ice Beam/Toxic/Light Screen/Thunder Wave

Nicknamed to be one of the greatest walls of all time, and no wonder why. Lugia's speed evs are to outspeed anything at max speed Garchomp and below, which is a great accomplishment for a wall. Also, this is the best CB Groudon counter EVER. Mainly a team supporter, Lugia won't usually carry a ton of damaging moves. The best way to beat a Lugia is with Taunt. Any fast Taunter will bring Lugia to its fall. Taunt Mewtwo and Darkrai are prime examples. Also, since Lugia has a quick recovery move to use, no one uses Restalk, making it vulnerable to Toxic. Blissey and Forretress are the best choices for Lugia. Other great choices include Dialga and Tyranitar.

Giratina:@Leftovers
248 hp, 248 def, 12 spdef
Bold/Impish Nature
-Rest
-Sleep Talk/Roar
-Will-o-Wisp
-Dragon Pulse

Long time rival of Lugia, Giratina is also considered the great wall because of its immunities, stats and typing. But people usually look to Lugia because it has Roost. Sadly, Roost makes Lugia vulnerable to the common Toxic move. Giratina is like what Misty does to Brock in the anime, barely giving you enough time to yell COCKBLOCKED! before she drags the sweeper offscreen by the ear. With Will-o-Wisp, there will be almost no Physical sweeper getting past the monster of Giratina, besides Rayquaza of course. However, the key to beating Giratina usually is a Taunt Calm Mind Mewtwo, laughing at the pitiful attacks that Giratina can do and setting up Calm Minds on the switch. Palkia and Dialga are also great ways to beat on Giratina. Forretress is the best teamate to have with Giratina, having perfect type synergy. Blissey is also a great choice.

Ho-oh:@ Life Orb
192 hp, 252 att, 66 spd
Adamant
-Sacred Fire
-Substitute
-Roost
-Earthquake

Basicly an emo bird, Ho-oh seems to like causing pain to itself. Shaving off 25% with Substitute and 10% with Life Orb, Ho-oh is pretty much forced to use Roost. Boasting a base 100 STAB attack, backed by a 130 base attack, Ho-oh can really bring the pain. It just sucks though that Ho-oh can't hit many Pokemon as hard as it should. A good amount of common Pokemon in Ubers are resistant to Ho-oh's STAB, namely Kyogre, Palkia, Latias, Latios, ect, or are neutral to it. Of course, with a 50% Burn rate, you may want to keep your Physical sweepers out. Luckily for you, Ho-oh takes 50% from switching into Stealth Rock, so having rocks up makes life a lot more easy. Also, Pokemon such as Giratina-O, Latias and Kyogre shrug off most attacks from this set. Palkia is also a worthy choice. Groudon and Forretress are some of the best Pokemon for Ho-oh.

Garchomp:@ Choice Scarf
252 att, 252 spd, 6 def
Jolly Nature
-Earthquake
-Outrage
-Dragon Claw
-Stone Edge/Toxic

Not too long ago, Garchomp was declared Uber by many forums due to being incounterable. However, when choosing a Pokemon in the uber environment, Garchomp is usually overlooked by Palkia and Rayquaza. Just because many do it doesn't mean that you should. Unlike Rayquaza, Garchomp doesn't need time to set up, meaning that you can start right off the bat. Also, Palkia's slower than Garchomp, so Garchomp doesn't have to luck out to beat one. The best ways to beat Garchomp would be to send in Lugia, who is able to tank Scarf Garchomp's hits like a man. However, if the opponent is running a Choice Band, hen you may be forced to play around it. Kyogre and Scizor are the best teamates for Garchomp.

Manaphy:@Life Orb
80 hp, 252 spatt, 176 spd
Timid Nature
-Tail Glow
-Rest
-Surf
-Ice Beam/Grass Knot

If there was ever a perfect choice to pair with Kyogre, it would be Manaphy. In rain, Manaphy is prehaps the best status absorber in the game, having access to Rest also means that it can restore any hp lost and not be sleeping for 2 turns. On top of this, Manaphy has the move Tail Glow. This may sound fantastic, but Manaphy is really easy to revenge kill, and requires Rain to function. Of course, it is still a huge threat. Dialga and Latias are great counters to Manaphy, and so are Palkia and Calm Mind Blissey. Also, when Manaphy needs to Rest, you can send in a Pokemon to change the weather, making Manaphy sleep for 2 turns. Best teammates would probably be Kyogre and Swords Dance Garchomp.

Giratina-O:@ Griseous Orb
86 Hp, 216 spatt, 96 spdef, 112 spd
Modest
-Calm Mind
-Substitute
-Aura Sphere/Shadow Ball/Dragon Pulse/ Hidden Power [Fire]
-Dragon Pulse/Shadow Ball/Thunder/Energy Ball/ Hidden Power [Fire]

Calm Mind Giratina-O, popularised by Jibaku, has been known to basicly break most stall teams with no effort, losing only to Psych Up/ Snatch Blissey, among other things. Giratina-O has a massive movepool to go with the monster stats that it possesses, being able to hit most Dragons hard with STAB Dragon Pulse, or ripping apart the Psychics with Shadow Ball, or even hitting Steel types so hard they become dust with Aura Sphere. This makes Giratina-O really, really tough to counter. Your best shot is to use Payback Forretress, but you have to watch out for Hidden Power Fire. Sets with Hidden Power Fire usually have Dragon Pulse, so it's safe to use Lugia, or Taunt CM Mewtwo to beat CM Giratina. Giratina-O's best teammate is Forretress, who makes the combo have perfect Type synergy, has a Spiker + Spin Blocker AND a counter to most Giratina-O.

Latios:@ Soul Dew
Timid Nature
252 Spatt, 252 Spd, 6 spdef
-Calm Mind
-Dragon Pulse
-Grass Knot
-Recover/ Roost

A devastating sweeper in Ubers. Latios is a sweeper that has 130 Base Special Attack, 110 Base Speed and 110 base Special Defense. On top of that, Latios also has Soul Dew, which is like a free Calm Mind with no strings attached, making this beast a powerful sweeper, espicially considering that with one Calm Mind, it now has +2 in Spatt and +2 in Spdef. Dragon Pulse is a great STAB to use, and hurts Palkia, Garchomp, Latias and Rayquaza. Grass Knot beats down Tyranitar, Groudon and Kyogre. There are a few counters to Latios though. Blissey, Scizor and metagross are the best, while Lugia, Ho-oh and Forretress all dislike Thunder. The greatest teamate to Latios is Groudon, as it can beat all of Latios' major counters. Scizor is also a good Pokemon to use, as it not only defeats revenge killers such as Darkrai, but has great synergy with Latios.

OU and UU in Ubers

You may be wondering why people would use OU in ubers, when ubers are so good that they are banned from OU. OU Pokemon and even UU Pokemon can be somewhat useful in Ubers, like Blissey, Parasect, Cresselia, and even Primape. These Pokemon have niches in the game, but for most, they are small. I'm going to give you a list of some of the OU, UU and NU threats in ubers

Blissey:@ Leftovers
Calm
4 hp, 252 def, 252 spdef
Natural Cure
-Wish
-Protect
-Toxic
-Seismic Toss

Blissey, the premier wall in OU, is still useful in OU compared to Giratina and Lugia, Blissey is more specially bulky and has only one weakness. That's amazing. Blissey has the ability to wall like no onther wall, and it will always be that way. Protect, Toxic and Wish allow Blissey to both stall and support her teamates, chipping off 100 hp every time from a Pokemon. Because of this, Blissey is pretty much a staple on Uber teams, whether offensive or defensive.

Skarmory:@ Leftovers/ Shed Shell
Forretress:@ Leftovers
Tyranitar:@ Leftovers
Latias: @ Soul Dew
Metagross:@ Leftovers
Heatran:@ Choice Specs/Scarf
Lanturn:@ Leftovers
Magnezone:@ Choice Scarf/ Specs/ Leftovers
Primape:@ Choice Scarf
Heracross:@ Leftovers
Salamence:@ Life Orb
Mamoswine:@ Life Orb

Ludiculo:@ Life Orb
Shedinja:@ Focus Sash
Latias:@ Soul Dew
Parasect: @ Leftovers



Example of a team:

This team is based around CM Kyogre, a great sweeper that is both strong and bulky.

Deoxys-E:@ Focus Sash
Jolly
252 att, 252 spd, 6 hp
-Extremespeed
-Taunt
-Spikes
-Stealth Rock
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Kyogre:@ Leftovers
Timid
252 spatt, 252 spd, 6 spdef
-Surf/ Water Spout
-Calm Mind
-Ice Beam
-Thunder
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Groudon:@ Choice Scarf
Adamant
252 Att, 252 Spd, 6 def
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch
-Dragon Claw
-Stone Edge
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Scizor:@ Choice Band
Adamant
200 Hp, 56 Att, 252 Spdef
-Bullet Punch
-Uturn
-Pursuit
-Super Power
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Giratina-O:@ Platinum Orb
Modest
86 Hp, 216spatt, 96 spdef, 112 speed
-Substitute
-Dragon Pulse
-Aura Sphere
-Calm Mind
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Blissey:@ Leftovers
Calm
4 hp, 252 def, 252 spdef
Natural Cure
-Wish
-Protect
-Toxic
-Seismic Toss

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The use of this team is simple: Basing it around a powerful and bulky Pokemon such as Kyogre, opening up a sweep. Scarf Groudon is in there to break the Pokemon that hurt Kyogre sweeps, such as Dialga,
Blssey and on the revenge, Palkia. Any hard threats such as Palkia and Mewtwo are stopped by Blissey. SD Rayquaza will dislike a combo of CB Scizor and Groudon. It should be noted that this team is hurt somewhat by Toxic Spikes. Thankfully, the only user of Toxic Spikes in Forretress, who is stopped by Groudon and Kyogre.

Note that this is a WIP, and I don't have all of the threats and sets. I'm just doing some so I don't forget. >_>

I also missed 3 weeks of work, so I'm behind. I'd appreciate some help.

[Dimes]

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[Mig]

Great work dude.



Ludicolo needs a mention tho

[Dimes]

Already have it. >_>