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    Dragonite Analysis

    reservation - currently being worked on.

    [OU] Dragonite Analysis WIP


    Introduction

    Dragonite
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    Abilities: Inner Focus: The Pokemon cannot flinch.
    Released- [DW] Multiscale: When at 100% HP, all damage is halved.

    Base Stats:
    91 HP
    134 Atk
    95 Def
    100 SpA
    100 SpD
    80 Spe


    Dragonite has been around since the first generation, back when it was the only fully-evolved Dragon typed Pokemon. In this generation, though, it got a massive boost in the name of the Multiscale ability. Dragonite is now not just slow mence with Extremespeed, it is one of the bulkiest Pokemon in the game. Taking minimal damage from almost every attack when at 100% HP, Dragonite has become a very useful Pokemon. In the past, the best sets were Clerics, Anti-leads, and Dragon Dancers, which in all honesty were either done better by Mence, or only used because of his Dragon typing and secondary offensive capabilities. The anti-lead set is no longer worth mentioning, due to the new rules of WiFi-Battling, where you can switch Pokemon around on a team based on what the opponent is using.
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    Move sets:


    Defensive Dragon
    Dragonite @Leftovers
    Ability: Multiscale
    Sassy
    HP - 100/ Def - 216/ Sp.Def - 194
    Roost
    Dragon Claw/Dragon Tail
    Fire Blast/Flamethrower
    Extremespeed

    This Dragonite is a set I personally made, when I first took interest in Multiscale Nite. Roost is a very self-explanatory move, recovering HP for Dragonite whilst it battles, and losing Flying typing can be very beneficial in a lot of cases, and it is never going to hurt Dragonite unless the opponent is using a Ground type move against it. Dragon Claw is for general STAB, and the move recommended on this set, due to the fact that it has no drawbacks and is a decent move for weakening the opponents. Outrage is less usable on this set, due to the fact that there is no Attack investment, and who wants to get locked into Outrage when we're needing to Roost? Dragon Tail is a phazing move, with a -1 priority, but does not go through Substitute, which is a major hindrance. Extremespeed is not only very useful for any physical Pokemon, but for Dragonite it can be the difference between a KO, and letting the opponent recover HP while it takes advantage of this set's low Speed stat. The EVs are used to take a Kojondo Fake Out at 100% HP and still be able to recover back to maximum, and the Special Defense EVs are there for general bulk, and more-than-often become very helpful when trying to take Hidden Power [Ice] and Ice Beams, usually freeing you up for a Dragon Claw/Extremespeed combination KO, or just if you need to be brave enough to see what the opponent is carrying and Roost off the damage you predict.


    Offensive Mixed Dancing Dragon
    Dragonite @Life Orb
    Ability: Multiscale/Inner Focus
    Hasty/Naive
    EVs: 160 Attack - 156 Sp.Attack - 200 Speed
    -Dragon Dance
    -Fire Blast/Flamethrower
    -Outrage/Dragon Claw
    -Earthquake/Extremespeed

    With this set you'll primarily be focusing on setting up Dragon Dance, while keeping your momentum with Fire Blast/Flamethrower when need be. The issue with choosing Flamethrower is that Dragonite cannot OHKO Ferrothorn by depending on the accuracy over power situation, and Fire Blast can be EV'd to simply OHKO any Ferrothorn that try to stop your momentum, along with the occasional Scizor, Forretress, and it can do a great deal of damage to Skarmory, if not KOing a weakened one. Earthquake is for coverage on Heatran and other ground weaks such as Tyranitar (The reason we're running the 200 speed points is so that we outspeed Jolly Ttar/Timid Heatran/Adamant Gyarados) Extremespeed could be used in this slot, but is less recommended on this set unless you're deathly afraid of certain priority moves, or think that you'll benefit more from Normal coverage. Outrage and Dragon Claw are always the same argument, 120 BP (160 factoring in STA versus 80 BP (120 factoring in STAB.)


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    Post-Analysis
    After the move sets have been listed, the following must be included.

    Other Options- Make in size 3 and Bolded

    This is where moves, abilities, and items not listed in the analysis but have competitive value are listed. This does not mean listing the rest of the Pokemon's move pool.
    Main points listed in the Other Options should be spaced and bolded in order to reduce confusion.

    Teammates- make in size 3 and Bolded

    Teammates that work well with the Pokemon should be listed here. This should not be a list. You must explain why the Pokemon listed as teammates work well with said Pokemon. For example, Gyarados is a good partner for Electivire because it lures Electric Attacks in order to obtain the Motor Drive Boost.

    Counters- With Dragons such as Dragonite, it's not really possible to counter every set. If you use Bronzong/Nattorei, you can counter a good portion of sets if they lack Fire Blast, and with Heatran you can counter sets that lack Earthquake, but Dragonite will almost always have one of the two.

    Opinion

    To be honest, Dragonite is a very useful Pokemon. It can run highly offensive sets, it can run highly defensive sets, and it can run great support sets. There's no limit to the Dragon type's elemental resistance chart - Fire, Water, Grass, Bug, and even Fighting types are all resisted, while the ever-common Ground type is a complete immunity. This can't even explain how well Dragonite does against opponents. Dragon typing is only resisted by Steel - which is taken care of by the powerful Earthquake, or the common Fire Blast that a Dragonite can carry in its arsenal, making it not only a great defensive Pokemon, but an amazing offensive one too.



    There are also several things that should be done when writing these analyses:
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    lol you basically copy pasted the format. Now get rid of the format explanations and just actualy do what they say.
    Also, where's DD nite, both defensive and offensive? Where's offensive MixNite? I know that you said that its kinda outclassed by mence but with marvel scale, you basically have a free boost on the DD set!
    MixNite is still viable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lapras6666 View Post
    lol you basically copy pasted the format. Now get rid of the format explanations and just actualy do what they say.
    Also, where's DD nite, both defensive and offensive? Where's offensive MixNite? I know that you said that its kinda outclassed by mence but with marvel scale, you basically have a free boost on the DD set!
    MixNite is still viable.
    You do know what WIP means, don't you?

    If you don't, it mean work in progress. In other words, it means I'm not finished.
    I am a member of TeamStation's Battle Frontier University.
    So yeah, f*ck being exclusive.


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    It sucks how Drag can't have Heal Bell with Multiscale:/
    Someone gave me a set a couple days ago, and it's annoying as hell.

    Dragonite
    @Leftovers
    Ability: Multiscale
    Nature: Careful (+SpD, -SpA)
    EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Def

    - Twave
    - Roost
    - Dragon Tail
    - Substitute / EDIT: Fire Blast

    Yeah.. It's kind of sad but i've pounded whole teams to death with this set. Subs+Roost lets you abuse Multiscale, Twave to slow every thing down, Dragon Tail for optimal annoyance. At worst, this set will cripple a couple of your opponents pokes with para.

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    I think you mean Multi Scale, Lapras.
    Give EspyOwner a break, he's simply copy and pasted the format and is slowly making his way into edited the parts in. He doen't have to do it all at once, the title does say WIP.
    There is no need to instantly jump on him because he hasn't listed certain sets yet and has yet to fill in the post analysis sections. I know Luke, I think he knows what he's doing.
    So please, stop with the forceful attitude, it's very rude. We want people to stay on our forums, not leave.

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    The first line of the analysis says currently being worked on......

    Anyway espy, you know I love that set, but quick question. Should outrage even be slashed in? It really doesn't seem all too necessary.

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    Mike. Remember Surf vs Boiling water? .... I rest my case
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    Ok sry guys.
    @ Espyowner: If you plan on making new sets, then put below, for example: Offensive DD will be done later. This to avoid confusion. Sry if I was too forceful with you, I totally didn't mean that I just gave you ways to improve your analysis.
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    DD, I remember the case, but the thing is being locked into a 2-3 turn move on a defensive Pokeomon and being confused after doesn't seem like a good idea

    Credit goes to SilentDreams for the awesome signature!

    (18:35:40) +EspyOwner: Ciele is lv6
    (18:35:44) +EspyOwner: CIELE LEARNED GROWTH
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    Remove Substitute and add Fire Blast and that set becomes a lot more viable

    Credit goes to SilentDreams for the awesome signature!

    (18:35:40) +EspyOwner: Ciele is lv6
    (18:35:44) +EspyOwner: CIELE LEARNED GROWTH
    (18:35:50) +EspyOwner: Aww, Ciele hit puberty.

    (22:45) Lunar: stop sending me nudes
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    (22:46) Lunar: that was supposed to go to mike ._.

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