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    I have updated your analysis to the correct format. I also added explanations for the abilities
    Some suggestions for improvement:
    -Try to make the titles for the move sets more professional
    -Try to add some more positive stuff in the Overview
    -Are there any more sets you could add? You mention a sweeper set (although generally outclassed, it's still a possibility) a defensive set, and an offensive set. You also mention Destiny Bond as the best chance at killing something... could that be used in a set?

    Everything you have here is in the correct format and grammar edited, but I think some more sets really could be added to this. Even if Qwilfish sucks, you've made it clear that there are some uses for it, so more sets could definitely be added.

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    Thanks so much for helping Steel Dragons and SilentDreams =D =D =D
    Let me make it clear though, why I believe Qwilfish's only usable set is the one I listed. Lets also be clear that Swift Swim and Drizzle used on the same team is banned, so Qwilfish will have to use the opponent's Politoed if they have one or they have to have Rain Dance support.
    As a Swords Dance sweeper lets look at Qwilfish's advantages and disadvantages compared to Kingdra and Kabutops.

    Qwilfish has
    • Poison Jab
    • 85 base speed
    • Poison sub-type

    Not looking so bad for Qwilfish huh? Well you will notice that you are only going to use Poison Jab for Water-resists, Grass, Water, Dragon and Water Absorb pokemon. Ferrothorn is actually immune to Poison while Jellicent is resistant to Poison. Dragon pokemon are tore down nicely except you realize Dragonite with Multi Scale can live through one and Salamence can with Intimidate without Stealth Rocks in play. Kingdra threatens to outspeed and OHKO Qwilfish. Meanwhile Kabutops can completely destroy bulky waters and grass pokemon with Stone Edge, which also mauls all Dragons. It also can use use Low Kick to destroy Ferrothorn. Poison is not a horrible offensive typing when paired with Water, but Kingdra's Draagon/Water is a hell of a lot better. Well having 85 base speed is good right? Actually 80 Base Speed (Kabutop's) is perfectly fine in Rain, allowing Kabutops to outspeed Deoxys-E or any +1 base 100 speed pokemon, even if Kabtuops is neautral speed nature while the above mentioned ones are plus speed nature. Kingdra meanwhile is just as fast. Poison sub-type is a good one, giving Qwilfish a Fighting and Poison resist, as well as a neutrality to Grass. Toxic Spikes are absorbed on contact with Qwilfish which is a plus, although with Wi-fi clause nobody would set up Toxic Spikes on Qwilfish. Toxicroak is also common on Rain teams, it can absorb Toxic Spikes equally well. Toxicroak also resist Fighting and Poison meaning that Qwilfish resistance's are not as useful; Toxicroak already covers these threatening types well. Now lets stop kidding ourselves here. Nobody even uses Kabutops since Aldaron's proposal was put in effect. Using Qwilfish would be akin to using Kadabra with a resistance to more priority moves and an extra bit of speed. Kadabra would be almost completely outclassed by Alakazam while Alakzam would still be a mediocre pokemon at best. Thus Qwilfish cannot be a good rain sweeper, hardly anything can be with Swift Swim banned with Drizzle.

    Of course that was the only set mentioned, another set, such as a lead Spiker could be used. Not so true. Spikes are almost always better layed down by Roserade as a lead as it has more Speed, reasonable Special Bulk and instanst recovery in Rest to come back and set up some more. Wi-fi clause also hurt the lead metagame, if your only Pokemon that could be a reasonable lead is Qwilfish, then the opponent can simply counter lead you.

    A defensive Spiker is about the only thing Qwilfish can do.

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    See now a lot of what you have written there could be included in the actual analysis. There's a lot of good information there, that gives a better idea of why the set you have is really the only viable one.

    That being said, if the set you have listed is truly the only viable set, then I would suggest against stating that certain moves could be used in another type of set. This makes it seem like that set would actually be effective in a battle, and was just left out of the analysis. If there's a reason that set (or a move within a set) is more or less useless, then that should be made clear.

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    Am I allowed to put an explanation in other options why there should be no other options? Or do i just list what few other options are.

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    If you're going to suggest that there are other viable options, I strongly suggest putting in another set or two. If the options aren't viable, why even mention them as being viable? You're welcome to add an explanation along the lines of "sets such and x, y, and z have been used for Qwilfish in the past, but are not viable for the following reasons..."

    Thing is, if the set just doesn't work for the Pokemon, you mentioning it as a potential set will make it seem like the analysis is lacking in content.

 

 
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