Thundurus or Tornadus?

[Murray]

Is Tornadus or Thundurus better?I know that Thundurus has STAB T-Bolt and Thunder.But Tornadus has STAB Hurricane and they pretty much can abuse Life Orb boost.They also have the same Base Stats.But I want your opinion and Movesets.(EV's,Natures,Items,Movesets and Nicknames!).Also I want your opinions on a Landorus is it good or bad?(EV's,Natures,Items,Movesets and Nicknames!)

[PokemonHunter]

Well thundurus is banned but i know thats not wat u mean. even though, i still think tornadus is better on personal experience

[Murray]

I mean overall not tiers or anything but do you still have any movesets ,nicknames or anything?

[Lavityranitar]

Problem solved, Phantom:



Zohan (Tornadus) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 32 Atk / 224 SAtk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spe, -SpD)
- Hurricane
- Hammer Arm/Focus Blast
- Taunt/U-turn
- Rain Dance/HP Ice

This thing is just a beast in Rain. With it's Life Orb on and Hurricane 100% accurate in Rain (combined with 120 BP) is ready just to eat up unprepared teams. Hurricane is obviously there as a (prepare for a understatement) powerful (understatement cleared) STAB move. Hammer Arm or Focus Blast slam Tyranitar and Ferrothorn into the earth, with a OHKO and 2HKO respectively. Taunt can destroy Ferrothorn, with Tornadus resisting Power Whip and a foreseeable Focus Blast/Hammer Arm coming, it just has to go. However, U-turn can be used for scouting (but that isn't really necessary due to the advent of Team Preview) in case your team has a counter for Ferrothorn (which is a Fighting type, because Fire is powered down in the rain). HP Ice is a good coverage move, but Rain Dance is useful when Politoad goes down. The EV's and Nature hinge on what your running. If you choose Hammer Arm, use the Above nature and EV's. If you opt for Focus Blast, however, run 4 Def, 252 SAtk and 252 Spe with a Timid or Modest Nature. 4 HP is a no no because it makes it divisible by 4, and the Stealth Rocks are then a 4HKO rather than 5HKO, limiting switch-ins.

Oh, and since you wanted the nickname, You Don't Mess With The Zohan: He'll blow you away. (just like Tornadus, and I assume you guys have all seen that movie)

And Now Thundurus (FYI, it is a Uber now thanks to a Smogon ban):



Zohan (Thundurus) (M) @ Life Orb
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Nasty Plot
- Thunder
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Focus Blast

The set that was common in OU before it's ban is still viable in Uber's. Thundurus has 3 keys to a Nasty Plot sweeper: High Special Attack and Speed, Immunity to Spikes and Toxic Spikes and a immunity to Ground moves. These, combined with a insanely powerful Thunder can tear unprepared teams apart. Another cog in Thundurus system is that it sends Kyogre running: allowing it to grab a Nasty Plot and allowing you to stand back and watch the fireworks. Any player who dumbly switches in a Groundon will be OHKO'd by HP Ice, while Dialga and Ferrothorn, two thorns in it's side, can be taken care of via Focus Blast. If you use Thundurus on a Ubers team make sure you have:

• Something that can counter/check random Choice Scarfs (I recommend Paralysis support)
• Something that can get rid of ExtremeKiller Arceus and Rayquaza (Choice Scarf Terakion or a Will-o-Wisp are Ideal)
• Entry Hazards and Rapid Spin (Forretress can actually do both, while Ferrothorn is a hazards staple)

because without proper team support Thundurus is useless.

Zohan again, because it's a cool nickname.

[lapras6666]

Thundurus. Obv. It doesn't have any reliable swith-in.

[steel dragons]

Thundurus is better, becuase it has great move coverage, the ability to work in any weather (unlike tornadus, who needs rain), and a better defensive typing compared to Tornadus. Thundurus also has Prankster Thunder Waves, which can help with various situations. However, as has been mentioned, Thundurus ois Uber whereas Tornadus is not, so keep that in mind.

[Lavityranitar]

Yeah, someone took notice of my mini-analysis!

I was gonna write up that Taunt + Nasty Plot set in my post, but I thought that the lead metagame is DEAD due to Team Preview, especially in Ubers. I thought that it made a matched up well to Kyogre, a common lead. Suggestions?

[Blue Dragon]

Well I use a Tornadus in Pokemon Black to support my Breloom and Kingdra with Rain and Tailwind boosts. He is also a brilliant offensive Pokemon able taunt walls and spam Hurricanes.

I personally prefer Hurricane for it's ability to confuse the target, which I find more useful. I have used Thundurus as well, but stuck with Tornadus in the end, as it fits my team better.

Here is the move set I have for him...


Tornadus @ Damp Rock
Type: Flying
Ability: Prankster
Stats: HP: 303 Atk: 231 Def: 165 Sp. Atk: 303 Sp. Def: 208 Spd: 301
Move Set:
-Rain Dance
-Hurricane
-Taunt
-Tailwind

His main use is for support, but can be a tricky Pokemon to beat on it's own.