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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylveon View Post

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    If that happens, Mississippi will ban science from being taught.

    AP American History is banned in Oklahoma because it "is too unpatriotic" and that it teaches students to "not think America is the best country on earth." Yeah. The federal government DOES need some control over the education. They should have the ability to block this ban from happening. "States play a bigger role in our education." That'd be great, but I really don't trust any state in the South to do that. Please note, common core is up to the state to opt in. Its not something that is required. States can completely ignore it, or even stop teaching it if they want. States already have a large amount of local control. For example, Texas is one of the last remaining common core holdouts. Texas textbooks literally downplay and are dismissive to slavery. In Texas, you are required to teach your students that slavery wasn't why the south seceded. They require biased and politicized info to be taught. Let's take a look at more of the inaccuracies found in the current Texas textbooks:

    • A number of government and world history textbooks exaggerate Judeo-Christian influence on the nation’s founding and Western political tradition.
    • Two government textbooks include misleading information that undermines the Constitutional concept of the separation of church and state.
    • Several world history and world geography textbooks include biased statements that inappropriately portray Islam and Muslims negatively.
    • All of the world geography textbooks inaccurately downplay the role that conquest played in the spread of Christianity.
    • Several world geography and history textbooks suffer from an incomplete – and often inaccurate – account of religions other than Christianity.
    • Coverage of key Christian concepts and historical events are lacking in a few textbooks, often due to the assumption that all students are Christians and already familiar with Christian events and doctrine.
    • A few government and U.S. history textbooks suffer from an uncritical celebration of the free enterprise system, both by ignoring legitimate problems that exist in capitalism and failing to include coverage of government’s role in the U.S. economic system.
    • One government textbook flirts with contemporary Tea Party ideology, particularly regarding the inclusion of anti-taxation and anti-regulation arguments.
    • One world history textbook includes outdated – and possibly offensive – anthropological categories and racial terminology in describing African civilization.
    • A number of U.S. history textbooks evidence a general lack of attention to Native American peoples and culture and occasionally include biased or misleading information.
    • One government textbook … includes a biased – verging on offensive – treatment of affirmative action.
    • Most U.S. history textbooks do a poor job of covering the history of LGBT citizens in discussions of efforts to achieve civil rights in this country.
    • Elements of the Texas curriculum standards give undue legitimacy to neo-Confederate arguments about “states’ rights” and the legacy of slavery in the South. While most publishers avoid problems with these issues, passages in a few U.S. history and government textbooks give a nod to these misleading arguments.
    If local control means teaching this bull**** to students, no way in hell would I or any sane person favor more local control.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-report-finds/
    Note: The article says it's proposed. It actually was approved, and is in use right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
    If that happens, Mississippi will ban science from being taught.

    AP American History is banned in Oklohoma because it "is too unpatriotic" and that it teaches students to "not think 'Merica is the best country on earth." Yeah. The federal government DOES need some control over the education. They should have the ability to block this ban from happing. "States play a bigger role in our education." That'd be great, but I really don't trust any state in the South to do that. Texas textbooks literally downplay and are dismissive to slavery. In Texas, you are required to teach your students that slavery wasnt why the south seceeded.
    What you're arguing for is to have some guy at the federal level counter state bias with his personal bias, which does nothing to actually eliminate bias altogether, and instead simply redistributes it. If we reduce the size of the system to the local level, we don't have some big guy running the show from above, but instead allow students to form their own ideas.

    In much the same way you fear states in the south being able to write curricula, I fear states such as CA and NY having the same liberty, which is why I argue for the abolition of both state and federal curricula and instead for allowing well-educated teachers to compose their own material.

    localizing education allows for students to challenge statements by addressing the content with whomever is responsible for it. If content is composed by someone running the show at a state or federal office, it is impossible to challenge the content. If one's teacher is responsible for a statement with which a student disagrees, the student may bring the issue before the teacher. Another benefit to localization is that it saves a lot of money, because money goes directly to educators rather than being shot up to the federal officials where money then passes through 60 hands before finally getting down into schools and paying the teachers.

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    Texas' curriculum is state run. If it were run locally, students can challenge these inaccuracies (some of which aren't even inaccurate, but that is a separate discussion). If Texas' state system were to be abolished and reduced to the local level, taxpayers also wouldn't be paying bureaucrats who wish to teach such material.

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    He clearly said "states and localities" in your video. States laws are dominant over local laws. So if local school districts want to teach something the state doesn't like, they won't be able to do so.

    He also wants to abolish the department of education. Let's take a look at what they do.

    About 95 percent of the department's $67.3 billion budget is devoted to grant-making...The department gives out K-12 grants to states for educating low-income children and children with disabilities and for training teachers. It makes K-12 grants to school districts for children who live on military bases and other federal land.


    Yes. Let's spend less money by taking-away education funding intended for the poor and disabled. Way to go Rand!

    http://www.vox.com/2015/4/7/8356979/...ion-department
    Last edited by Blue; 04-20-2015 at 01:41 AM.

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