5th Generation Uber Guide

**sahil** · 09-10-2011, 02:00 PM

Can anyone tell me good physical sweeper in ubers except grodoun and zekrom.

**Overlord-Brian** · 09-10-2011, 11:58 PM

^Blaziken

**lapras6666** · 09-11-2011, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by sahil

Can anyone tell me good physical sweeper in ubers except grodoun and zekrom.

^ Rayquaza, and the best sweeper in ubers, extremekiller arceus

**Dimes** · 09-14-2011, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by sahil

Can anyone tell me good physical sweeper in ubers except grodoun and zekrom.

Rayquaza, Garchomp, Dialga, tons of Arcei, Terakion, Scizor, Tyranitar, and many more.

**PokemonHunter** · 10-01-2011, 12:59 PM

I dont think this was said but wat about arcanine being a good lead? with lum berry, it can cc darkrai leads. wild charge kyogre leads. its a pretty good lead in ubers and ive used it before, its pretty effective.

**PSN_Eevee** · 10-01-2011, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by PokemonHunter

I dont think this was said but wat about arcanine being a good lead? with lum berry, it can cc darkrai leads. wild charge kyogre leads. its a pretty good lead in ubers and ive used it before, its pretty effective.

The problem with this is that thanks to team preview, the lead metagame is pretty much dead, possibly more so in Ubers than any other tier, and anyhow, Arcanine is a downright dead weight (hell, possibly even a liability) mid-lategame, because it doesn't hit hard enough to keep momentum and lets a ton of dangerous threats set up on it.

**Dimes** · 10-01-2011, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Eevee

The problem with this is that thanks to team preview, the lead metagame is pretty much dead, possibly more so in Ubers than any other tier, and anyhow, Arcanine is a downright dead weight (hell, possibly even a liability) mid-lategame, because it doesn't hit hard enough to keep momentum and lets a ton of dangerous threats set up on it.

That and the fact that it only beats Darkrai. Kyogre isn't OHKO'd by Wild Charge (56.1% - 66.1% with Hasty) and Deoxys beats Arcanine even if Arcanine has Extremespeed (Psycho Boost+ Sash). Solar Beam doesn't even KO Groudon (47% - 55.4%)

**Murray** · 10-02-2011, 11:19 PM

Garchomp is the only one i can think of that Ive used and Liked.:)

**Dimes** · 10-05-2011, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by Phantom

Garchomp is the only one i can think of that Ive used and Liked.:)

You really have not used Bulk Up Dialga have you?

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