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This article gives you ideas of how to use Cloyster in battle in the Pokémon Black, Pokémon White and Pokemon B2W2 Games. It lists popular movesets used by competitive battlers, as well as a description on how to use each set to help you understand why the moves were chosen. These popular sets are usually the best to use in battle and so reading this guide will help you in your team building.
Gen 5: OverviewCloyster has always been known in previous generations as a physical wall, with its very impressive 180 Base Defense. With a low HP stat of 50 and an abysmal 45 SpDef stat, Cloyster had always been outclassed by sturdier physical walls, like Skarmory, Steelix and Registeel, and banished to the UU tier, where it was mainly seen as a lead spiker. With the coming of gen V, Game Freak decided to bless Cloyster with a move unique to shelled, aquatic Pokemon: Shell Break. For those new to this generation, Shell Break lowers Def and SpDef by one stage while raising Attack, Special Attack and Speed two stages. With Skill Link and access to two 5-hit moves with decent coverage, Cloyster has the potential to become a very dangerous threat.
Cloyster isn´t without its flaws, as its abysmal Special Defense means that any Special Pokemon that can survive its onslaught will outright destroy Cloyster after a Shell Break. Cloyster is also susceptible to Vacuum Wave, a Special Fighting priority attack, and will more likely than not be OHKOed. Cloyster´s Dream World ability, Overcoat, is basically an inferior Magic Guard, and is out classed by Skill Link and Shell Armor.
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Ability | Nature | Item | HP | Atk. | Def. | SpAtk. | SpDef. | Speed | |
Skill Link | Adamant / Jolly | life orb / white herb / focus sash | 4 | 252 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 252 | |
There are no current set statistics analysed |
With Shell Break, Cloyster´s role in the game completely shifts from a defensive tank into a huge offensive threat. While loosing a stage in defense and special defense, Cloyster gains a +2 boost in Attack and Speed (Special Attack isn´t too important for this set). Rock Blast and Icicle Spear coupled with Skill Link is what truely makes Cloyster terrifying. Icicle Spear, being STAB, is the equivalent of a 187.5 base power attack with 100% accuracy. Rock Blast comes in second with the equivalence of a 125 base power attack. Rock and Ice also have great type coverage, hitting every Pokemon, except Poliwrath and Empoleon, for super effective damage. Razor Shell is recommended in the last slot in order to hit Pokemon like Tyranitar and Heatran for super effective damage. Ice Shard is a viable option in order to get a hit on Pokemon with priority moves, notably OHKOing Breloom. Explosion is to go out with a bang, and a +2 Explosion will hurt almost anything that isn´t resistant to it.
Additional Comments
After a Shell Break, Cloyster reaches a humongous 634 Attack and 478 Speed with an Adamant Nature. If more speed is necessary to beat Scarfed Starmie and win the speed tie against Scarfed Gengar and Latios, then a Jolly nature can be used instead.
Cloyster has 3 main choices for its item. Life Orb is recommended in order to increase Cloyster´s devastating attack power. White Herb can be used in order to remove the negative defense drops after Shell Break. Focus Sash will guarantee that Cloyster is able to get up a Shell Break.
Damage Calculations by Bologo from Smogon
+2 Adamant LO Icicle Spear (25 BP STAB x 5 hits) vs.:
252/252 Impish Skarmory = 80.8% - 98.8% (OHKO with Rocks)
252/252 Impish Swampert = 89.1% - 106.4%
252/252 Impish Hippowdon = 145.2% - 173.8%
252/252 Relaxed Nattorei = 81% - 95.2%
252/252 Bold Cresselia = 67.6% - 81.1%
252/252 Impish Uxie = 80.5% - 94.6%
252/252 Impish Poliwrath = 46.9% - 54.7%
252/252 Impish Giratina = 119% - 142.9%
252/252 Impish Groudon = 136.1% - 163.4%
252/252 Bold Suicune = 37.1% - 44.6% (possible 2HKO with Rocks)
252/252 Impish Deoxys-D = 80.6% - 95.4%
0/0 Shanderaa = 97.7% - 114.9%
0/0 Kerudio = 78.9% - 92.9%
0/24 Empoleon = 40.6% - 48.7% (incredible considering it 4x resists)
4/0 Kyogre = 74.6% - 87.7%
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Ability | Nature | Item | HP | Atk. | Def. | SpAtk. | SpDef. | Speed | |
Skill Link | Naive | life orb / white herb / focus sash | 0 | 252 | 0 | 44 | 0 | 212 | |
There are no current set statistics analysed |
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Originally posted by Aruinko
With a naive nature and 212 Speed, Cloyster outspeeds jolly Scarfchomp after Shell Break which is the highest used Scarf-Speed, is suggest.
With this split and item, it gets OHKOs on max SDef Skarm, bulky Swamp, max Def Blissey and others (think these examples are ´nuff said).
It loses the OHKO on Breloom, but gains perfect type coverage and is really only killed through fighting-prios caused by the speed-stat.
Rock Blast is important ´cause it´s Cloyster´s only reliable way to kill bulky waters (2HKO on vappy after Shell Break, but maybe more damage-output with Icicle Spear and Hydro Pump and a kill on Mach Punch Breloom (and Scarfchomp etc.) is better than a 2HKO on something that OHKOs in return).
This set basically is designed to take advantage of the fact that Shell break is essentially Swords Dance, Nasty Plot and Agility all in one move. Water/Ice/Rock has near perfect coverage, and Hydro Pump allows Cloyster to beat walls that it normally would struggle against. With a naive Nature and 216 EVs, Cloyster out speeds Jolly ScarfChomp, which is one of the faster Pokemon that Cloyster would be seeing, after a Shell Break. Hydro Pump with 44 spAtk EVs will OHKO max spDef Skarmory after Shell Break, which is a nice bonus. Icicle Spear is a great STAB move in general and couples well with Rock Blast and Skill Link. Rock blast is used in order to put a dent into Bulky Waters and hopefully into the 2HKO range. Ice Shard can be used instead for priority, which can be nice against some faster scarfed Pokemon, and to OHKO Breloom.
Additional Comments
A Naive Nature is chosen for this set due to Cloyster´s unsalvageable spDef. It should be noted that with only 216 Speed EVs, Cloyster will loose to Scarfed Latios and Starmie, two Pokemon that can come in and OHKO Cloyster.
Ability | Nature | Item | HP | Atk. | Def. | SpAtk. | SpDef. | Speed | |
Skill Link / Shell Armor | Careful / Impish | white herb | 252 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 252 | 0 | |
There are no current set statistics analysed |
While this set seems very similar to the offensive Shell Break set, the role that the two play are extreme different. While the Offensive set turns Cloyster into essentially a Glass Cannon, this Cloyster is designed so that it can actually survive against some big name threats, like Breloom´s Mach Punch, and either seriously dent or outright KO them. Shell Break and White Herb are a great combination, and allow Cloyster to obtain a Shell Break while negating the defensive drops. Icicle Spear is recommended if Cloyster is running Skill Link, since it allows Cloyster to have essentially a 187.5 Base Power Attack. If Cloyster is running Shell Armor, then Icicle Spear is a perfectly viable alternate, due to more reliability. Rock Blast is listed second due to its very good type coverage with Icicle Spear. Ice Shard is recommended in the last slot. While it seems unusual to use Ice Shard on a speed boosting Pokemon, Cloyster will lose to a lot of Scarfed Pokemon due to zero Speed investment. Ice Shard allows you to nail Pokemon like Scarfed Garchomp, Latios and Sazandora, and do some major damage to them. Razor Shell is listed second in order to hit Steel Pokemon for neutral damage. Explosion is to go out with a bang, and will put a nice dent into Pokemon that aren´t resistant to it.
Additional Comments
The first EV spread is to maximize Cloysters pitiful spDef in something somewhat respectable. With a Careful Nature and Max SpDef, Cloyster can actually survive Infernape´s Vacuum Wave with a respectable amount of health left and OHKO with Rock Blast. The other option is to completely maximize Cloyster´s Def to make Cloyster an insane physical tank, taking only 24-27% from Breloom´s Mach Punch.
Ability | Nature | Item | HP | Atk. | Def. | SpAtk. | SpDef. | Speed | |
Shell Armor / Skill Link | Bold / Impish | leftovers | 252 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 252 | 0 | |
There are no current set statistics analysed |
Despite the added ability to become an awesome offensive threat, Cloyster can still decently pull off its original role as a Spiker/Spinner. Spikes is the best choice of entry hazard, as it reliably dents all grounded Pokemon. With Cloyster´s incredible bulk, its usually able to pull off at least one layer of Spikes if not two. Rapid Spin is listed second in order to remove entry hazards from your own side of the field. The third move slot is a toss up for an attacking move. Surf is listed first due to its reliability and nice type coverage. Icicle Spear is a viable alternate, and can still do a ton of damage when coupled with Skill Link. Rock Blast can be used so that Bulky Waters, mainly Jellicent, don´t completely wall you. The last move slot is a choice between more entry hazards or to go out with a bang. Toxic Spikes are listed first in order to increase the number of hazards on the opponent´s side of the field. Explosion is always an option on Cloyster, as it will do a serious chunk to your opponent if they aren´t resistant to it while giving you a free switch in.
Additional Comments
The EV spread allows Cloyster to survive neutral special hits with a respectable amount of damage left. The nature is dependent on Cloyster´s attacking move. Bold should be used with Surf while Impish with Rock Blast and Icicle Spear. Shell Armor is recommended so that Cloyster doesn´t fall on the off-chance of a critical hit, but Skill Link is viable with Icicle Spear or Rock Bast.
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Ability | Nature | Item | HP | Atk. | Def. | SpAtk. | SpDef. | Speed | |
Shell Armor | Modest / Timid | life orb / white herb / focus sash | 4 | 0 | 0 | 252 | 0 | 252 | |
There are no current set statistics analysed |
While outclassed by Pokemon like Omastar, Cloyster can run a special Shell Break set with a respectable special move pool and a decent 85 base spAtk. Shell Break is the key to this set, as it is essentially a Nasty Plot and Rock Polish all in one move. Surf is recommended in the second move slot due to its reliability, but Hydro Pump can be used in order to significantly increase Cloyster´s damage output. Ice Beam and HP Electric provide the beautiful Bolt/Beam coverage, which is the main reason to use this set.
Additional Comments
After Shell Break, with a Modest nature, Cloyster reaches a nice 590 spAtk and 448 speed. Timid can be used in order to increase Cloyster´s speed, though Cloyster will lose quite a bit of power in the process.
Life Orb is recommended in order to increase Cloyster´s damage output. White Herb is a viable alternate in order to allow Cloyster to survive a hit. Focus Sash guarantees that you will live at least one hit.
Cloyster´s main weakness is its horrid Special Defense. Blissey or Chansey are great partners in order to take Special Attacks aimed at Cloyster. Either of these Pokemon can also provide Wish Support to Cloyster, since Cloyster doesn´t have a reliable recovery move. All Cloyster variants appreciate spin support, since Cloyster is weak to Stealth Rocks and takes a heap from Spikes. Excadrill and Starmie are the best choices for this due to their huge offensive threat, meaning that ghosts will be reluctant to come in on their attacks. For Offensive variants, Dual Screens are huge, as they can save Cloyster from being wrecked by priority moves. Deoxys-S is one of the best Dual Screeners around, due to its blazing fast speed. Mew can also be a solid Dual Screener and can explode, allowing a free switch in for Cloyster. Pokemon that can resist priority moves are also nice teammates for Cloyster. Zapdos and Lati@s are great teammates as they resist the ever common Mach Punch carried by Conkeldurr and Breloom and can threaten back with STAB super effective attacks. Defensive Variants appreciate a spin blocker, so the spikes that Cloyster laid won´t be briskly blown away. Gengar, Spiritomb, and Chandelure are all examples of Spin Blockers that can be utilized with Cloyster, the ladder resisting Scizor´s Bullet Punch.
Other OptionsChoice Band- An option in order to skip a turn to set up, but Shell Break is just so much better.
Protect- Can be used for scouting/toxic stalling, but it removes a move slot that Cloyster desperately needs.
Spike Cannon- Can be used with Skill Link, but Normal attacks aren´t beneficial for Cloyster, as Cloyster will have no way of hitting Steel Pokemon
Toxic- Can be used instead of Toxic Spikes for immediate crippling.
Blizzard- can be used over Ice Beam, but the low accuracy and PP is very unappealing.
Ice Breath- A nifty attack that always results in a critical hit, and can be used against spDef boosting Pokemon like Stockpile Hippowdon, but 9 times out of 10 Ice Beam is better
Poison Jab- is another physical option, but the coverage Poison offers is terrible.
Usual CountersCloyster is a very difficult Pokemon to counter, due to how deadly it becomes after a single boost. Cloyster has two main weaknesses: Special attacks and super effective priority moves. Pokemon that can use Vacuum Wave, like Lucario and Infernape, can easily take out the deadly mollusk. Pokemon that use Mach Punch, like Breloom, Choice Banded Infernape and Roobushin, also can put a nice chunk into Cloyster, especialy with the -1 def drop after Shell Break. Scizor can do some damage to an extent, but a Max Atk Banded Bullet Punch only does a maximum of around 70%, meaning Scizor can´t take out Cloyster when it´s at full health. There are a few Pokemon that can out speed and KO Cloyster after a Shell Break, the main one being Choice Scarfed Starmie.
If Cloyster doesn´t have a Shell Break up, then it isn´t much of a threat (unless it´s Sashed). The easiest way to beat an un-boosted or defensive Cloyster is to take advantage of Cloyster´s horrid spDef. Pokemon like Shaymin, Zapdos, Jolteon, etc. can easily take out Cloyster. These Pokemon don´t stand a chance against Cloyster after a Shell Break though.
If Cloyster is specially based, then Blissey or Chansey can wall it all day.
OpinionShell Break completely changed the way that Cloyster is played. While in all previous gens it was treated as a Physical Wall, Cloyster is now considered to be a top sweeping threat. The combination of Skill Link and Icicle Spear is scary enough, but combined with Shell Break, and Cloyster becomes a monster.